The reality experimentalist agrees because he had his arms broken when applying a Gan sau to a roundhouse kick.
I agree with the thrust of your post, but I also think a good experimentalist can learn from OTHER people’s mistakes, rather than making them ALL him/herself.
Originally posted by anerlich
I agree with the thrust of your post, but I also think a good experimentalist can learn from OTHER people’s mistakes, rather than making them ALL him/herself.
I agree with that too. Ray
The chinese Zen Shao Lin teaching
Originally posted by t_niehoff
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**You will not ponder those questions when someone is trying to whack your head off, or when you come back to consciousness after having your head whacked off. 
Then you’ll be concerned with whether or not your training worked.
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The first patriach of Zen in China, Boddhidrama or Damo of Shao Lin was poison 6 times. The first 5 times, he avoid it.
At the six time, he took the poison, got poison and died. those who wanted to kill him was taken by suprised why with Damo’s kungfu he purposely not avoiding to die.
The second patriach of Zen in China, after passed his Zen mind seal to the third generation went and paid back his killing Karma. He died being beheaded by the emperor 's order who thought he was an evil man. After the second patriach executed, the emperor find out what happen and regret.
The six patriach of Zen, Hui Neng was in a hit list to be killed by some people who was jealous about him. So, the hit man arrive and Hui Neng stick his neck out in his bed room asking the hit man to cut it off. The hit man was moved and trying to escape. However, Hui Neng told the hit man, that He owe a few gold coins to hit man in the past life, but not owing life. thus, he give the hit man the amount of the gold coins and send the hitman out safely.
Late Ven Hsu Yun the zen patriach was hang and beaten with iron bar into unconcious and torture for days at the age of over 100 year old by the communist bandits. After days, he didnt die and the communist was suprised and leave him alone. He didnt have a slight of hatret after his recovery.
There was An incident about the Zen patriach, late Ven Hsuan Hua in California. A person comes to see him and claiming he had attain enlightenment or Satori. LAte Ven Hsuan Hua went to the kitchen and took a butcher knife and asking for that person to give him his head. That person run away while Ven Hsuan Hua was saying. the Zen patriach has no fear even his head got cut off.
as it was said in
The Song of Enlightenment
By Great Master Yung Chia of The T’ang Dynasty
WALKING IS ZEN; SITTING IS ALSO ZEN,
IN SPEECH OR SILENCE, IN MOVEMENT OR STILLNESS, MY
SUBSTANCE IS AT PEACE.
EVEN IF I MEET WITH A KNIFE’S POINT, I AM ALWAYS COMPLETELY TRANQUIL.
IF I AM GIVEN A POESONOUS DRUG, I AM STILL TOTALLY AT EASE.
OUR MASTER MET BURNING-LAMP BUDDHA AFTER MANY AEONS AS
A PATIENT IMMORTAL.
Those were the teaching of ZEN source from Shao Lin’s DAMO.
Who walked his talked. Perhaps there is more important thing in life beyond — to win, to fight, to be the number one, to revenge, to over thrown the Qing.
perhaps all the ZEn people with Mind Seal from the Buddha were Nuts. starting from DAMO of Shao Lin.
Back to that little ideas set. May be just may be when one has less and less amount of ideas or thoughts while doing the set one be able to aware of more and more details about the set. All is within the process.
That person run away while Ven Hsuan Hua was saying. the Zen patriach has no fear even his head got cut of.
I detect a morbid obsession with beheading amongst the Zen Patriarchs.
Perhaps they could go to Iraq and allow the fanatics to take them hostage. Give the hapless unenlightened Americans and Poms there a break.
Having no fear of beheading or death is a sign of idiocy, not enlightenment.
By Great Master Yung Chia of The T’ang Dynasty
Demonstrably, it can be argued, a dangerous fool.
If you meet the Buddha on the road, behead him!
If anyone else is offended, I shall remove it.
It’s not a good idea to quote something you want others to remove, BTW.
However, I think provides the perfect illustration of the shallow nature of your post that preceded it.
Re: The chinese Zen Shao Lin teaching
Originally posted by yellowpikachu
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perhaps all the ZEn people with Mind Seal from the Buddha were Nuts. starting from DAMO of Shao Lin.
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When one admires the Buddha it is important not to know Hendrik/yellowpikachu personally.
Originally posted by anerlich
However, I think provides the perfect illustration of the shallow nature of your post that preceded it.
The Zen patriach cultivate themself to be able to sacrify thier life for peace and transcent others to do good .
The Buddha himself feed the dying eagle in hunger with his own flesh when there was no food found.
Your “pefrect illustration” is inconsiderately for others and unneccessary. There is no need to evoke human’s pain, sadness, and unfortunate incident to illustrate your point about the Zen patriach is shallow because the Zen patriach love peace more then thier body and life.
I am here to discuss Wing Chun, Shao Lin and its tradition.
My urge for you to delete that sad inconsiderate and unneccesary part of your post is trying to urge you to consider about others while you make your point.
However, your reply shows your self-righteous justification which I dont think there is anything to discuss further about your way of making points.
Re: Re: The chinese Zen Shao Lin teaching
Originally posted by Rhat
When one admires the Buddha it is important not to know Hendrik/yellowpikachu personally.
Great advise.
The buddhism I believe in is about no killing and the Buddha / patriach including Boddhi -Damo of Shao Lin, sacrified themself to help others and for peace.
That is certainly nuts for some such as those believing the Shao Lin monks design advance martial art to kill the Qing.
originally posted by yellowharinghendrik
My urge for you to delete that sad part is trying to urge you to consider about others while you make your point. However, your reply shows your self-righteous justification which I dont think there is anything we need to discuss further.
You can not be serious you live in a glass house do nothing but throw stones all day and night and sleep walk on broken glass and have the audacity to complain that your feet hurt. You suffer the consequences of your own actions.
However, your reply shows your self-righteous justification which I dont think there is anything to discuss further about your way of making points.
Your reply shows a feeble attempt at emotional blackmail. and most of your own posts are little other than self-righteous justification.
As I said before, if anyone else complains, I shall remove the reference.
LAte Ven Hsuan Hua went to the kitchen and took a butcher knife and asking for that person to give him his head.
The Zen patriach cultivate themself to be able to sacrify thier life for peace and transcent others to do good
These two assertions don’t add up.
I have a real hatred for anyone, Zen Patriarch or otherwise, that diminishes life by suggesting that giving it away or treating it as unimportant is somehow intelligent or noble. Similar arguments are used by those that rasie the suicide bombers.
It’s just plain STUPID.
If modern reality is unpalatable to you, that’s your problem.
Originally posted by canglong
You can not be serious you live in a glass house do nothing but throw stones all day and night and sleep walk on broken glass and have the audacity to complain that your feet hurt. You suffer the consequences of your own actions.
if to be considerate for others is a wrong doing,
if to tell the truth about the teaching of Shao Lin Da Mo on loving peace and his sacrified is a wrong doing,
I accept my karma with open heart.
But, I will still consider and care for your well being if you get hit by a car in an accident and become a vegitable. I dont have to like you. But, You deserve to be consider and care for just because you are human. and I will not use the misfortune incident to illustrate my point.
That is certainly nuts for some such as those believing the Shao Lin monks design advance martial art to kill the Qing.
yin/yang
war/peace
life/death
Ming/Qing
questions/answers
Hendrik/phenix/picachu/? = out of balance out of focus
I accept my karma without a problem.
Could you consider accepting it a little more quietly?
Originally posted by anerlich
Could you consider accepting it a little more quietly?
One doesnt have to hide to accepting one fault. if there is one.
Originally posted by yellowpikachu
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My urge for you to delete that sad inconsiderate and unneccesary part of your post is trying to urge you to consider about others while you make your point.
However, your reply shows your self-righteous justification which I dont think there is anything to discuss further about your way of making points. [/B]
To remember who you are and what’s really important. Say nothing, but say it with purpose and meaning.
Originally posted by canglong
[B]yin/yang
war/peace
life/death
Ming/Qing
questions/answers
Hendrik/phenix/picachu/? = out of balance out of focus [/B]
The questions of Hendrik’s live isn’t meant to be forgotten. BTW, Hendrik doesn’t practice Wing Chun, just talk Wing Chun.
Originally posted by Rhat
To remember who you are and what’s really important. Say nothing, but say it with purpose and meaning.
I am very glad that I cannot do what you do.
To twist words, to support others’ action of being inconsiderate on human’s tragical pain, sorrow, grief, and sadness.
Re: Re: Re: The chinese Zen Shao Lin teaching
Originally posted by yellowpikachu
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That is certainly nuts for some such as those believing the Shao Lin monks design advance martial art to kill the Qing. [/B]
A thought provoking reminder of the White Crane Wing Chun that surrounds us…Hendrik, we will slow down long enough to pay attention to your story.
Re: Re: Re: Re: The chinese Zen Shao Lin teaching
Originally posted by Rhat
A thought provoking reminder of the White Crane Wing Chun that surrounds us…Hendrik, we will slow down long enough to pay attention to your story.
You like to discuss about white crane, shao lin, emei and wing chun, starts a new discussion. why not? Go ahead.
This is the second time I encourage you to start a new discussion.
You seem to be either shy or have so much fear to stand up and start a new discussion.
Originally posted by yellowpikachu
I am very glad that I cannot do what you do.
All of this is out of focus. The motive now is simply to be awake from moment to moment and to deal the real issue: You should spend “TIME” to practice your White Crane Kung Fu, intead of throwing stones at Shaolin Temple.
Originally posted by yellowpikachu
To twist words, to support others’ action of being inconsiderate on human’s tragical pain, sorrow, grief, and sadness.
Sit down, be still, and pay attention to Cang Long’s voice: “Your reply shows a feeble attempt at emotional blackmail. and most of your own posts are little other than self-righteous justification.”