Thank you. I am trying to teach those interested.
Let me know how I can be of service to those looking for help with their physical issues and health as well as Iron Skills.
Hi Dale. Let me ask you this. As many have suggested one can not learn IP skills via video. In fact on another forum I suggested if that is true why do you support guys that make any of these videos. IP or otherwise. As I disagreed that one could learn skills via video. It obviously helps to have studied something and even better if that something is the same or very similar. But I made my point. Should we not come down hard on these individuals as unscrupulous? Again, I don’t think anyone is trying to screw anyone for the most part and the makers probably do believe if one follows as I show then it should work as directed. Save a few held back “secrets” or whatever.
Now Dale, if you would. Since you sell a Iron Palm video and others. Do you believe one could safely and successfully learn that skill or others you teach via videos you sell/sold solely from just that video-set ? Needing nothing else in the way of personal instruction and I always agreed certainly that is best.
So, could I or others just buy your video and safely and correctly learn whatever skills you teach on those videos with no further assistance from you or others?
Really and simple yes or no answer should be enough to answer any and all concerns addressed. And I am asking specifically about what you sell instruction wise via video.
Thank you,
Bill
[QUOTE=boxerbilly;1281762]Hi Dale. Let me ask you this. As many have suggested one can not learn IP skills via video. In fact on another forum I suggested if that is true why do you support guys that make any of these videos. IP or otherwise. As I disagreed that one could learn skills via video. It obviously helps to have studied something and even better if that something is the same or very similar. But I made my point. Should we not come down hard on these individuals as unscrupulous? Again, I don’t think anyone is trying to screw anyone for the most part and the makers probably do believe if one follows as I show then it should work as directed. Save a few held back “secrets” or whatever.
Now Dale, if you would. Since you sell a Iron Palm video and others. Do you believe one could safely and successfully learn that skill or others you teach via videos you sell/sold solely from just that video-set ? Needing nothing else in the way of personal instruction and I always agreed certainly that is best.
So, could I or others just buy your video and safely and correctly learn whatever skills you teach on those videos with no further assistance from you or others?
Really and simple yes or no answer should be enough to answer any and all concerns addressed. And I am asking specifically about what you sell instruction wise via video.
Thank you,
Bill[/QUOTE]
He can answer for himself but what he appears to be doing are not videos but rather skype based distance learning. Skype can be perfectly interactive if one just has a webcam.
I offer a DVD of the Iron Palm and Iron Vest Training which is used more as a reference for people who have come trained with me or who have experience in other IP methods.
But If you want to buy the foundational level DVD, you can and learn the foundational level. Advanced levels need to be taught one to one. So yes, you can learn the foundation from a DVD and succeed if you train correctly and safely.
I am writing a new Iron Skills book and will be doing my DVDs over in the near future.
As mentioned before I have started offering Skype classes where i can teach and see people and instruct them in the physicality of the IP and IV.
Trying to help those interested.
Thank you Dale. Very much appreciated. That seems logical as well. At a basic level, yes. Viable method. At more advanced levels, reference only. Thanks again.
breaking bricks isnt important, u need to find a force meter thing and see if you can consistently produce knock out force with punch
[QUOTE=bawang;1281794]breaking bricks isnt important, u need to find a force meter thing and see if you can consistently produce knock out force with punch[/QUOTE]
knock out force can be a small clip in the right place or a huge smash in the wrong place.
I think breaking isn’t very useful, but it does teach you what is required.
I know the first time I tried a break that I was surprised how much force it took.
[QUOTE=bawang;1281794]breaking bricks isnt important, u need to find a force meter thing and see if you can consistently produce knock out force with punch[/QUOTE]
Context is everything.
Breaking can help gauge your progression and, as David mention, can be an eye opener in regards to how much force you need to break.
Of course not all bricks and slabs and breaks are created equal.
I have had used various force meters in the past, some of the industrial type ( benefits of being an Mech. Eng) and even those used in crash test dummies.
Based on what I have done and seen others do, almost EVERYONE can generate enough force to KO or hurt anyone else WITHOUT IP training ( kind of obvious when you think about it of course).
The only advantage I see IP practitioners having is when they hit where they are “not suppose” to hit.
Iv’ done IP for close to 10 years now and notice that I hit harder simply because I am less worried about hitting and I also notice that I feel a sense of “heaviness” in my hands that seems to translate into more depth in my strikes.
Of course I have always had “heavy hands” so…
From my current vantage point. That’s what I see. It increases the density of the bones in your hands. Making them less prone to break and as suggested may help remove any mental block about pulling back instead of speeding through. I realize this must be at its most basic level. Just making the hands more durable. Those selective breakers got something else going on.
For me, I was just impressed when I saw Allen’s girls bust all that block. Prior to that I don’t think I really considered it since I was 13 or something. As many have said, it is not all that great if you cant get into position to use it. A car with no gas. Im fairly certain all here can get into position regardless what they learned. So it boils down to, are you willing to commit to the training.
I can’t say I am ready, yet. Still in the I need to find out more stage.
Advanced training in IP is done on a hanging bag to learn how to hit people.
unless you pull people down and hit them you need to learn how to hit people that are upright and moving.
Thanks Dale. Ive read some of your old posts in the past. As well as some other people who impressed me with their knowledge.
Dale, I have read, I can’t recall where. Some suggested that even training like every other day will bring results. But most say everyday and some a couple of times a day. You personally may not be able to comment on every other day if you never did that. Just was wondering your thoughts or anyone else’s would be appreciated too.
I was taught 2 times per day for a year and then another year of once a day.
This was the foundational training period. After that you can train it a few days a week.
I still train my hands. I do not overtrain them. I needle people for a living, but can apply it.
[QUOTE=sanjuro_ronin;1281796]
The only advantage I see IP practitioners having is when they hit where they are “not suppose” to hit.
Iv’ done IP for close to 10 years now and notice that I hit harder simply because I am less worried about hitting and I also notice that I feel a sense of “heaviness” in my hands that seems to translate into more depth in my strikes.
Of course I have always had “heavy hands” so…[/QUOTE]
Absolutely, same for conditioning shins…you don’t need to condition them to kick someone in the thigh or the ribs, you need to condition them for when you catch a knee, elbow or another shin…
training 2 times a day for a well fed and rested man or someone who absolutely needs hard hands right away like a gangster
[QUOTE=bawang;1281859]training 2 times a day for a well fed and rested man or someone who absolutely needs hard hands right away like a gangster[/QUOTE]
There are two types of hand conditioning and the above is why.
Some people had the time and luxury to do it “slow and easy” and develop the skill with little or no ill effects.
However, for those that wanted it “right now”, the so-called “external method” was used and the signs were obvious ( think the calloused hands of an old school Karateka).
Greetings,
When I trained palm it was with the purpose of making the hand resistant to injury when striking. Back then, breaks were not about showing off. It was more of a personal marker of progress. It was done privately. Back then, you did not even talk about what you do nor dare talk about what you could do with it.
mickey
[QUOTE=mickey;1282212]Greetings,
When I trained palm it was with the purpose of making the hand resistant to injury when striking. Back then, breaks were not about showing off. It was more of a personal marker of progress. It was done privately. Back then, you did not even talk about what you do nor dare talk about what you could do with it.
mickey[/QUOTE]
Reading your post from larger perspective. It is a main cause for holding peoples growth back. Closed minds.
Greetings Billy,
Will you elucidate more on that? Because I sure did not see that with my post. I was referring to those who train palm and show off with it. .
mickey