but only a few have ever been in a fight or seen more than 10 styles used so you do not think that you system is better in a real life “fight” but you don’t even know what your talking about your a newbie.
once you have trained for 5 years and been in at least a few fights using your style than tell me if it even works. right now you could be at any school and say it is the best. the fact remains that you don’t know JKD you think you know it and in truth you know a few moves that are… guess what in about 300 other ststems! The only reason you think your style is better is you are too open minded to your teacher and close minded to anyone that knows anything of any other system.
How can you think that bananas are better for killing pain than vodka is, if you never tried them both? I know you didn’t say pain you were thinking for health, but the fact is that you know a bit about health and not even a years worth of fighting.
So let us recap what I just said;
you think your art (regardles what it is) is better than any other art (including ones you’ve never heard of or seen let alone tried)
you must ask your self do I know what I’m talking about and if you have an IQ of 70 you should know the answer is no. You should be very open minded at this time in your training. I’m not saying to trust everything you hear but you can’t think it’s all bull.
you also are talking about two very different styles as being the best JKD and BJJ
first off JKD is kung fu because kung fu means martial art in china in the USA we understand it as a different term.
You had mentioned what you did in your third class great
I can’t rember what I did in my first class (to long ago) nor my 100th. It doesn’t how many moves you know it’s like the term “jack of all trades ace to none”
you arn’t proffessing that your art is better
but you think that after you’ve taken three classes that you know what ones work in the real world. the real world is not in a class room
if you train for ten years in any art (I mean train 2 or 3 hours EVERY day) any art should work on a normal person.
On a trained person(s) there are too many ifs. ex; what if my sifu can beat yours than will I be able to beat you? no not if I have less expirence than you or if my sifu can’t teach as good as yours
but to answer your question no. in ten years your clone in the system’s of hsing-i and bagua will be much higher skill level. the JKD would beat the bagua clone after two or three years but if you have a good teacher the bagua will kill most others the learning curve is like that because it’s an inturnal system tai chi works the same way but there are very few real tai chi teachers in china let alone the USA but it takes 10+ years to use tai chi at all.
hsing-i is really the best if you want to get real good real fast maybe even the best for that because it was made for the army (in china) to train fast and to a high level. though in ten years the bagua and tai chi are at an even higher
level of skills.
No style is better no matter what you or I think it’s all up to the user if you use it wrong for 10 years you might as well have been doing tai bo. :rolleyes:
you must unlearn what you have learned then and only then will you be wise and have knolage
Forgive me if im wrong but isnt JKD finding what works with all the arts, which means giving up JKD and learning different arts like Muay Thai, Boxing, BJJ, Silate etc. etc. In 10 years you JKD guys will be practicing Tai Chi Chuan I predict, lol. Just playing we all have our preferences mine being TCC.
True, however you did start out with the same attitude - you were convinced that your view was the only right view and that anyone who disagreed was wrong. Very black and white way of looking at the world.
And true, you have changed and you sound like you are going to not only be a good MA but also a good person.
MA Newbie, really when it comes to Life or death in the street. Who’s to say Traditional Kung Fu is the best or JKD is. I hope to never find out I seriously hope I neve have to use my MA skills to defend my life or anyone else.
In todays turbulent corrupt world we are over run with McDojo’s and Instructors with baloney credentials. Are you learning the best Martial Art money can by? Does it matter?
I say all that matters is that you love to train whatever your style and that you go at it hole heartedly and most of all have fun.
Because the reality of the Street is, I have a Glock 9mm that says your Kung Fu, Chi Ki, Whutaaa ing Martial Art don’t mean Sh!t. (my Gangsta)
Unfortunately I don’t have time to go back and look at the relevant posts, but I do remember several times when you had a very strong view and would not accept anyone else’s viewpoint. Well, not until after a lot of arguing back and forth and a lot of convincing. Seems pretty black and white to me :).
You have changed and definitely seem more mature now. Your views are your views but you seem to have learned to accept that other people have views too and that they can be just as correct as yours. Sometimes there is no correct answer.
Don’t get me wrong Joe, I think you are a cool dude. I just find it interesting that you and ma_newbie are about the same age and that you both started out with similar (not identical) attitudes that’s all :).
It sounds like your studying JKD Concepts and not JKD. The authentic Jun Fan kickboxing as developed by Bruce is hard to find. I’ve tried it myself, and as for me it was difficult to adapt this style; I just wasn’t fast enough. It sounds like your on the right track though, JKD Concepts is extremely streamlined and uses techniques proven in actual competition as well as viscious street techniques like gouges and throat strikes.
Just make sure you train correctly and get some competition under your belt. You have the right techniques to get you started but don’t think for a second that is all you need. Everything changes when you get hit for the first time, all of your scientific techniques will be worth nothing if you crack under the pressure of real fighting. Keep us posted
by jiujitsujedi repsonce I think he is able to remove my responce if not I am wrong sorry but otherwise I did answer the questions but it took to mush of my time to repeat my statement but to recap you don’t know what would work until your old and have a lot of expirence so don’t guess what will and won’t work you have no clue try everything you can remain open to everything but don’t think it’s all correct.
About the chi thing if you have two people that are the same build and both preform the same strike in exactly the same way (visualy) than why can one hit so much harder? the answer is chi weather you think I’m right or not that’s a fact. :rolleyes:
you must unlearn what you have learned then and only then will you be wise and have knolage
IXIJoe KaveyIXI
