Boffff thats questions have a good timing
Since Mantis have a lot of repetition forms…Probably 3 forms could do the job
of distilled …I agree no body have the time to train 100 forms and nobody have the time to remember all this forms…
Tang lang tsuud tung ,tang lang tow toe and mui fa kuen for the 7 stars for taiji mantis the lan jie…
but just one will be better the Bei shou lian Quan …I give you more info soon
about that…
just go there for more
http://sports.groups.yahoo.com/group/mantisboxer/
Steeve
Northern praying mantis was the name used by GM Han Hon Fan …Does the lineage are 7 stars or a blending of 7 stars …the mui fa …He neve rused the name 7 stars???and any books all is northern mantis
In the Qixing Tanglang family of Mantis, Beng Bu Quan, Shi Ba Shou, and Duo Gang are commonly cited.
The way Yu Hai’s compilation is played today, it has nothing to do with Mantis fundamentals.
The forms Lan Jie and Ba Zhou are from Meihua Tanglang.
Cheers,
N
Edit: Dont know what other people think, but Beng Bu for me is definitely the most demanding form in terms of footwork, diversity of technique, and the amount of energy required to get through it.
[QUOTE=Qixing Tanglang;856661]In the Qixing Tanglang family of Mantis, Beng Bu Quan, Shi Ba Shou, and Duo Gang are commonly cited.
The way Yu Hai’s compilation is played today, it has nothing to do with Mantis fundamentals.
The forms Lan Jie and Ba Zhou are from Meihua Tanglang.
Cheers,
N
Edit: Dont know what other people think, but Beng Bu for me is definitely the most demanding form in terms of footwork, diversity of technique, and the amount of energy required to get through it.[/QUOTE]
Definitely my favorite mantis form. You could get a good idea of the whole system through this form alone.
…what about weapons forms?
[QUOTE=Steeeve;856604]Northern praying mantis was the name used by GM Han Hon Fan …Does the lineage are 7 stars or a blending of 7 stars …the mui fa …He neve rused the name 7 stars???and any books all is northern mantis[/QUOTE]
He was not an official inheritor of the line, couldn’t use the 7 star name.
Spychomantis
Does because LGK have created a lot of forms in the 7 stars…What do you mean WHF dont have the right to used the name 7 stars…He came from LGK…
Maybe we could call that the Hong kong 7 stars mantis???
Steeve:)
Its no secret that WHF didn’t receive the entire system, thus was not given the flag to teach under the 7 Star Flag and by no means is my statement to be taken as disrespect, WHF was a great Sifu.
WHF only used the term “Northern Mantis” because he always said our 7-star mantis incorporated Meihua and GuangBan. Therefore, I think that is why he prefered to used this term.
This has nothing to do with whether he has inherited the whole system or not. I would say he is the most qualified 7-star mantis sifu in HK during his period. If he is not qualified, he would not have been sent by LGY to teach in other Chin Woos in the late 30’s.
Without him or CCM, the mantis kungfu would not have spread to US in the late 60’s.
rgds
khoo
I believe, he wasn’t allowed to use the term “7 Star”, nor was given the flag by LGY.
Does not mean he was not proficient with what he was given to him, we know he knew more than he taught.
[QUOTE=MantisCool;857535]WHF only used the term “Northern Mantis” because he always said our 7-star mantis incorporated Meihua and GuangBan. Therefore, I think that is why he prefered to used this term.
This has nothing to do with whether he has inherited the whole system or not. I would say he is the most qualified 7-star mantis sifu in HK during his period. If he is not qualified, he would not have been sent by LGY to teach in other Chin Woos in the late 30’s.
Without him or CCM, the mantis kungfu would not have spread to US in the late 60’s.
rgds
khoo[/QUOTE]
Well here are my 6 form’s that i would have,
1.Bung Bo
2.Yin Ching Dao(broadsword)
3.Un Long Quan(Staff)
4.Lan Jie
5.Pak Yuen Chet Dung
6.Ba Zhou
But i do like ALL of 7 Star Mantis form’s.
these would be my core …
I THINK it is not true that WHF is not allowed to used the term “7-star Mantis” by LGY.
When WHF opened his own school, LGY is long dead! So, who else has the lineage right to stop him from using the 7-star Mantis term?
rgds
khoo
Whyd the thread get edited. Too much politics?
Seems like just about everyone lists Bung Bo, Ba Zhao and Lian Jie.
Can anyone post clips of Lian jie and Ba Zhao done well?
What is this set, how old is it. anyone care ton decscribe it?
Also, does anyone know of good clips of Guarding the Door Broadsword in Eight Directions?
Good Video of Bagua Lan Mun Dao
This is the best Video that I have seen on the Internet of Bagua Lan Mun Dao: Guarding the Door Broadsword in Eight Directions.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WoEX4U_JDyk&feature=related
I believe the title that the Sifu gave was just Tai Chi Mantis.
The videos that this sifu has are very good. He covers most major hand forms. He even performs Quai Jer Yao: Quickly Picking the Essentials.
Regards,
Steve
[QUOTE=gunglihchuan;861869]This is the best Video that I have seen on the Internet of Bagua Lan Mun Dao: Guarding the Door Broadsword in Eight Directions.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WoEX4U_JDyk&feature=related
I believe the title that the Sifu gave was just Tai Chi Mantis.
The videos that this sifu has are very good. He covers most major hand forms. He even performs Quai Jer Yao: Quickly Picking the Essentials.
Regards,
Steve[/QUOTE]
Here is another one, not as good but he uses a 9 ring broadsword 
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=zPpPyMw22cY
[QUOTE=RD’S Alias - 1A;861802]Seems like just about everyone lists Bung Bo, Ba Zhao and Lian Jie.
Can anyone post clips of Lian jie [/QUOTE]
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=1HTLg8BcyNM
Here is an article on Lan Jie by my kung fu uncle
Hi Gunglichuan and Taichimantis,
The first clip of Lan Men Dao is from Sifu Leung Cheuk Kwan, whom I have the pleasure of training with him while I was in HK. He was appointed as one of the five assistant instructors in the Hong Kong Kwoon, when GM Chiu was gravely ill.
Personally, I like his interpretation of the Lan Men Dao the best; however, in this clip he didn’t use the 9 rings saber, which should be the standard for this form. BTW, the clips are more recent production.
The other clip is from the banquet of 1975 I believe. The person who’s doing the form is Yau Tim, who is one of the most senior students of GM Chiu in Hong Kong. Yau Tim introduced my mentor, Galen Fok, to GM Chiu. So all thanks to him I have the opportunity to study such a great art.
As for the Lanjie form from the CCK TCPM and the article of Sifu Choy. I believe it merits another thread altogether. 
Anyway, thank you both for spreading the word and bring attention to CCK TCPM. Keep up the good work.
Warm regards
Robert