[QUOTE=Dale Dugas;1122433]No guns?
Then fade in, and pick him up with your favorite prethrow set up and then throw him on his head.
Stomp on said head until paste appears.
He’s dead.[/QUOTE]
Decent Strategy - Old Judo/Ju Jitsu - Shuai Jiao
i would listen to this before the fight
[QUOTE=bawang;1122417]i would pray to the heaven and earth, and make peace with my family.
then id smoke pcp for about a good hour. after that im ready to fight.[/QUOTE]
Probably something more to this. If you DBs didn’t chase out Kennedy with your knuckleheadedness - he’d probably be able to identify military rituals where heavy drug taking was encouraged.
[QUOTE=MightyB;1122444]Weapons - improvised - good solution :)[/QUOTE]
I’m all about the black eggs!
My thought is - just like there’s probably a core “True Religion” that’s been lost to antiquity - there’s probably a core to martial arts. There’s got to be a reason for some of the shared training methods in traditional martial arts. Maybe the true expression has been lost, but it’s probably more than what we’re seeing today in sport or tradition, I think the ghosts of it are there.
I’d like to see it and know it.
what do u mean
[QUOTE=bawang;1122458]what do u mean[/QUOTE]
TCMA Shuai, Na, Ti, Da methods - plus force training. If all that is so terrible, why are they around today?
Nobody has anything good to say about TCMA and this is a TCMA forum :mad:
F*ck it - MMA is God. It is everything.
Why don’t we just say Kung Fu - You’re all sick men of Asia wannabees. That’s what this forum propagates. Just say NO to kung fu and TCMA. Burn Down the Temple! Old Chinese are losers - old methods and methodologies suck. Where’s my Red Chinese Purge newsletter? We must all join against the fallacies of tradition! :mad:
no, i mean what kind of trainings confuse you?
I would sharpen my nails and coat them with curare.
I don’t care if I get hit, all I need is to give him one little skin scratch and he’s done.
Deception and treachery are required for death matches. Not martial arts training. Kill training which is mostly knowledge and how to apply it.
that is highly dishonorable. i would appreaicate it if you did not mention that again.
[QUOTE=bawang;1122467]no, i mean what kind of trainings confuse you?[/QUOTE]
Actually none - I’m pretty confident in the TCMA approach even though I’d say that my own history is non-traditional. I’ve went through a MMA phase and find that it’s shallow.
Recently did enough BJJ to get a Blue Belt in a Rigan Machado Affiliated School. Plus a Black Belt in Judo. Yet, I still go back to 7* Praying Mantis as better in applications. For force training, I learned some methods from my SiTai who happens to be Eagle Claw. And my new interests are leaning heavily towards internal - Specifically Chen Tai Chi.
I think there’s more to TCMA. I do think it’s poorly represented though. I’d like to see that change. This forum lately isn’t helping TCMAs image. Just trashes it constantly. What are ways to make it better? A life and death scenario should flush that out.
in hunan if no one won a fight, then they would stand and take turns chopping each other with a knife until one dies.
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I think there’s more to TCMA. I do think it’s poorly represented though. [/QUOTE]
how do you think it should be represented?
[QUOTE=MightyB;1122477]Maybe the true expression has been lost[/QUOTE]
the true expression is very simple. facing life and death with grimness and stern resolve.
[QUOTE=bawang;1122481]in hunan if no one won a fight, then they would stand and take turns chopping each other with a knife until one dies.
how do you think it should be represented?[/QUOTE]
If only I knew - but whatever’s being done must not be right. There are good schools, there are good instructors, there are even good organizations. It’s all about bringing back fighting ability without losing the tradition. How’s that done? I don’t know.
[QUOTE=MightyB;1122381]If you added the element of a fight being a life or death situation - you’re fighting someone - one of you is going to die - would it change how you play the fight game? If so, how?[/QUOTE]
well, if you want to have a serious discussion, tv and movies ruined kung fu, maybe permanently.
kung fu came from a harsh and brutal time that seems surreal and alien to modern city chinese and americans. modern kung fu is very “playful”. traditional training is boring, painful, america is the land of instant gratification.
[QUOTE=MightyB;1122484] It’s all about bringing back fighting ability without losing the tradition. How’s that done? I don’t know.[/QUOTE]
you need to understand that there has always been a tradition of non fighting form dancers, dating back at least 500 years. it is a real, legitimate, but ultimately shameful tradition.
[QUOTE=bawang;1122490]
kung fu came from a harsh and brutal time that seems surreal and alien to modern city chinese and americans. modern kung fu is very “playful”. traditional training is boring, painful, america is the land of instant gratification.
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What were some of these practices?
beating and yelling at the students to break their spirit and rebuild it. thats a good example.
but an important one that can be related to today, is probably living in poverty. kung fu people were poor people. today its mainly middle class to rich people. there is a huge gap is the view of reality.
Closing the distance and engaging would be the same. Once control was gained, after landing a couple heavy shots, sinking a lock or a choke, etc, then start changing and getting medieval looking to sink a thumb in an eye, etc.