The quote in the subject is something I’ve read often on message boards when a CMAist is defending his or her respective art when faced against other combat arts.
The usual argument is the CMAist didn’t have the experience or physical conditioning necessary when beaten by another style. Now, this makes sense, but something in the aforementioned quote always leaves something little to be desired… how, exactly, can we as CMAists train with the same intensity as a boxer by using our own style?
yes we can. since there is so much to tcma, you have to practice many things, not just do the drills of the set hands. boxing had a broad range of techniques and such, but tcma has a little more to it, and there fore there is less time to train things. and a lot of schools dont train fighters per say.
Re: “If a CMAist would train with the same intensity as a boxer…”
Originally posted by HearWa
[B]The quote in the subject is something I’ve read often on message boards when a CMAist is defending his or her respective art when faced against other combat arts.
The usual argument is the CMAist didn’t have the experience or physical conditioning necessary when beaten by another style. Now, this makes sense, but something in the aforementioned quote always leaves something little to be desired… how, exactly, can we as CMAists train with the same intensity as a boxer by using our own style?
Thank you. [/B]
Well it’s easy…cut your training of forms down to a minimum and increase your conditioning, contact drilling and sparring, pad, bag, and footwork training to be the main focus of your training. You know…training like you’re going to actually fight;)
Re: Re: “If a CMAist would train with the same intensity as a boxer…”
Originally posted by SiuHung Well it’s easy…cut your training of forms down to a minimum and increase your conditioning, contact drilling and sparring, pad, bag, and footwork training to be the main focus of your training. You know…training like you’re going to actually fight;)
If you can’t count your form training in AS conditioning; then please, by all means, stop doing them. Weak forms don’t help.
Out of the thousands of people who train in boxing, how many get broken wrists from bag work? How many do it for recreation and how many do it as a competitive pursuit.
to think that one categorical form of training is sweepingly better than another categorical form of training will only impede the person who thinks that in their own training.
It will either fail to prepare them for the unexpected or help them to realize exactly what it takes to be in “top” form.
I would say that on any side of the dodecahedron of martial arts training, it is probaly the majority of practitioners who really aren’t “top”.
Originally posted by Knifefighter
[B]If a CMAist would train with the same intensity as a boxer…
…he would look a lot like a boxer or kickboxer when he fought. [/B]
Bull. If you train your kung fu with the same intensity and intent as a boxer trains his boxing then you would look like a **** good kung fu fighter when you fought. If you expect that to look like a Jet Li movie, then get over it. Sounds like you have an issue there, bud.
Originally posted by Mo Lung Bull. If you train your kung fu with the same intensity and intent as a boxer trains his boxing then you would look like a **** good kung fu fighter when you fought. If you expect that to look like a Jet Li movie, then get over it. Sounds like you have an issue there, bud.
Efficient and effective standup fighting with strikes against a skilled, resisting opponent looks like boxing and/or kickboxing. That’s why they fight that way. Anyone who spars with intensity against skilled opponents finds this out pretty quickly. If you are fighting skilled opponents and doing well with your kung fu, it will look much like boxing or kickboxing.
Re: Re: “If a CMAist would train with the same intensity as a boxer…”
Originally posted by SiuHung Well it’s easy…cut your training of forms down to a minimum and increase your conditioning, contact drilling and sparring, pad, bag, and footwork training to be the main focus of your training. You know…training like you’re going to actually fight;)
pad work and heavy bags didn’t exist in ancient China or even in Thailand not long ago. Doing that would turn kung fu into modern kickboxing. Why not train how the anient masters by suing nature and with other people by doing two mans ets, light bare knuckle sparring, push hands, tui shu, etc.? The anient masters of old didn’t get those superhuman abilities by kicking ehavy bags and immitating modern thai boxers.
Originally posted by Knifefighter Efficient and effective standup fighting with strikes against a skilled, resisting opponent looks like boxing and/or kickboxing. That’s why they fight that way. Anyone who spars with intensity against skilled opponents finds this out pretty quickly. If you are fighting skilled opponents and doing well with your kung fu, it will look much like boxing or kickboxing.
Everything looks the same to the untrained eye. In all seriousness the fight usually happens and ends so quick, not to mention the speed of the strikes that you would be hard pressed to see the difference unless the kung fu practitioner uses trademark moves such as double hand strikes, or bagua footwork or something.
Re: Re: Re: “If a CMAist would train with the same intensity as a boxer…”
Originally posted by Strangler pad work and heavy bags didn’t exist in ancient China or even in Thailand not long ago.
What makes you think that? A sah bao (sand bag) is one of the simplest training aids there is. Of course they were around.
