I want to know everthing that i can about Hung Fa Yi Wing Chun who can tell me alot about it ?
Id say your best bet is that vingtsun museum site ran by Benny Meng.
Re: I want to know everything i can about Hung Fa Yi Wing chun
Garrett Gee. Contact him directly at his website.
Originally posted by FIRE HAWK
I want to know everthing that i can about Hung Fa Yi Wing Chun who can tell me alot about it ?
Come on firehawk- you are posting from Dayton Ohio!
quote "FIRE HAWK I want to know everthing that i can about Hung Fa Yi Wing Chun who can tell me alot about it ? "
lemme guess…chango put you up to this , didn’t he!!!
just another brainwash victim.
Hi Guys
Chango did not put me up to this i just wanted to know more about the style than what is listed in the book Complete Wing Chun because i am going to take the style at the vingtsun museum when i get a car again and my health gets better i have talked to sifu Meng before .I just thought someone on here would know more about its forms and techniques and things like that .
Really Firehawk- why not send Benny a email and ask///
right in your state too.
this is going to sound bad
i can’t in keep my mouth shut on this, if i didn’t tell you my oppinion i would feel like i would be letting you go down a path i believe is not a good one. I don’t think hung fa yi is all it is cracked up to be. if it is such a superior style of wing chun like it claim to be, then where is the proof. its all talk. and believe me, they blaintently say that their wing chun is better than other styles of wing chun. a article by meng on this site called “is your martial art a system or a style” said that. why would meng totally desert his moy yat wing chun? why didn’t he have faith in what he was doing? why will he not teach moy yat wing chun if he was such a great disciple of moy yat? Why would he have a museum basically devoted to yip man wing chun and then teach hung fa yi? a student from my school went to mengs for about 3 weeks. he came back and said that he had tae kwan do studdents teaching the wing chun classes, and that they didn’t even know sil lim tau. i’ve talked with meng about wing chun and hung fa yi doesn’t hold up to basic logic. he tried to tell me that if he tan da (palm up block and punch) my punch on the inside of my arm, i couldn’t bock his punch with my free hand. it just doesn’t make sence. and they seem to have the thinking that no one punches lower than the head. i personally think that meng is hiding his moy yat wing chun and keeping it to himself because he doesn’t want people to have the good wing chun. this has been my experiece of hung fa yi wing chun. you can take what i’ve said with a grain of sand. just consider it and think for yourself. there is another wing chun school in the area called bey’s martial arts, it is in trotwood. you might want to check it out. good luck. i hope for your sake im wrong about meng’s.
I Have herd of Bey Shaolin Martial Arts school here in Dayton , Ohio , you say your student and your school would you by chance be Sifu Ron Bey ? What is your lineage ? and What is your Wing Chun like ? I have thought about checking Ron Beys school out in the past maybe I will this time . I understand that Ron Beys Wing Chun is not Yip Man Wing Chun can you tell me if yours has forms or does it have San Sik like Pien San Gu Lao Wing Chun ?
Bey’s Martial Arts Accademy
Well first of all our lineage if you want to call it that is mainland wing chun. It comes from Canton. My sifu Ron Bey learned from Dr. Fred Wu in columbus. He mostly was known for his internal styles, but he also taught wing chun and routines from other kung fu styles he picked up in his study of martial arts. He learned wing chun from his uncles in Canton. We have a sort of saying about our lineage in our school. we say that our lineage is our application. We try to stay away from the whole lineage dicussion/disputes. If your wing chun is good it is good. When you go around saying lineage this and lineage that you start to think you don’t have to work hard because your superior lineage gives you and excuse not to. And you don’t have to prove you are good because people did it before you. For example people always talk about the rooftop fights in wing chun, but in reality they themselves aren’t that good. (sorry i had to go off on that tangent, but it was important) our wing chun is very similar to yip man style wing chun, but it also is similar to pan nam wing chun in many ways. our wing chun has some moves and other things in it that aren’t in the yip man style. our forms have only very small differences. but wing chun is wing chun, whether yip man, pan nam, or yeun kay san, etc. it all has the same essence, its all wing chun. our wing chun has drills in it that aren’t found it yip man wing chun to my knowlege. for example the live wooden man drill, the four switches in chi sau, five star iron forarm blocking, wu sau drill, ten basic blocks drill, etc. i’ve never heard of yip man people doing these drills, but i could be wrong. we brake up our training into 25% forms, 25% drills, 25% chi sau, and 25% sparring. we also practice meditation and chi kung. we also do what Dr. Wu called body abuse, its basically Iron shirt and Palm. We do sil lim tau, chim kiu, bil jee, the dummy form, and the knives. so that is a basic run down of our system. Sifu Bey teaches the Adult wing chun class monday night:7:30, Wednesday:7:30, Thursday:6:30, and Saturday 1:30. He has a childrens wing chun class too, and also a fitness class. he should be starting his tai chi classes again soon. Bey’s is at 3200 shiloh Springs Road. its a big Gray office building set far back from the road. The phone number is 854-4220. or you can Email me about it. wingchun_kf_squirrel@hotmail.com Thanks for showing the interest.
Thanks For the information it sounds like a great Wing Chun style and it looks somewhat like Pan Nam Wing Chun and Yip Man Wing Chun interesting i will have to think about this .
Is there a Website for Sifu Bey or Master Dr Fred Wu
Hi Wingchunalex,
Is there a website or link where we can read up a bit more on what you train.?
Re: Bey’s Martial Arts Accademy
Originally posted by wingchunalex
five star iron forarm blocking, wu sau drill, ten basic blocks drill, etc. i’ve never heard of yip man people doing these drills, but i could be wrong.
Those three drills we do. In fact, I have been asking for some time if anyone else does these drills, and no one piped up to say yes. We do not do the live wooden man drill, but we may do the chi sao drill, I’m not sure. Anyway, as far as I know, my sifu studied under Yip Man descendants. But, we don’t pay too much atention to lineage and acknowledge the virtues of other lineages. It is possible that some of our drills came from another lineage, or maybe represent a different period of Yip Man’s teaching than some others, I don’t really know.
-FJ
wingchunalex
there are lots of different kinds of drills and devlopmental
practices in Yip man wing chun. All depends on where and when
you go to see the diversities.
I can’t remember, is Sum Nung the more popular lineage in Canton?
http://www.wingchunkuen.com/archives/systems/systems_sumnung.shtml
Are there Yip Man representatives as well, how about other Chan Wah Sun descendants?
A Article on Dr. Fred Wu
cool
sorry we don’t have a website up yet, im working on it. thats cool that yip man people do some of the same drills. learn something new every day. thanks for giving me some imput on what i wrote. all of you seem very down to earth :). you can email me at wingchun_kf_squirrel@hotmail.com if you want to inquire more about my wing chun, but its basically like yip man but it has some eagle claw mixed in, so its kinda like pan nam too, at least thats what my sifu said.
wow
were did you find that article on Dr. Wu. that is cool. its really funny that they call him grandmaster Wu. Dr. wu always considered himself a student. Him and my sifu don’t like terms like “grandmaster” and “master” because it implies that you know everything. Dr. wu used to say that people became “masters” on the boat over to america.
Back issues
If you want to read Benny’s research, here is the issue on Hung Fa Yi & Benny
The article
http://ezine.kungfumagazine.com/magazine/article.php?article=141
The issue:
http://store.yahoo.com/martialartsmart/kunmag20sepi.html
And here is one on Chi Sim
http://store.yahoo.com/martialartsmart/kf200109.html
Fajing - Sum Nung’s system, and the various derivations thereof, are probably the most popular in the Guangzhou region. Mai Gei Wong’s system is also quite popular in the Pearl River area.
Lun Gai, one of the early Foshan students of Yip Man, teaches in Foshan. Chan Yiu-Min (Chan Wah-Shun’s son)'s family teaches in Shunde. They also have additional forms, weapons, etc.
Rgds,
RR