[QUOTE=CFT;998404]Tiger Crane form? I’m sure there are people here who can comment.[/QUOTE]
Ok that is the wrong translation than. From what i can understand with my poor chinese and english translators helping me. It was created before the tiger cranes was put together. Does any one know the form learning a tiger form that I’m talking about?
I never saw anyone do it in the states, but remember seeing it in a lot of old shaw brother films, haha.
Heung Keun in China might have different teachings but the one I think of when I hear that very particular way–Hung Kuen.
From the pattern in this book as I recall it is a shao lin type. This branch salutes with the left palm out.
Dragon is first then Snake. Then Tiger.
It begins from the last animal forms last posture. Or from the last animal’s form go into the beginning of the Tiger form…
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Tiger tail kick-bend forward support yourself with the hands-knee to chest thrust foot out. step(unicorn/scissors stance (slight)pivot 270 degrees tigertail kick
getting-up both hands near shoulders.
Slice Bamboo both sides–palm slides along forearm
it ends right palm up near shoulder and left palm down at front waist.
Until I run through what I can recall that’s all I recall sitting.
No_Know
[QUOTE=wiz cool c;999032]Ok that is the wrong translation than. From what i can understand with my poor chinese and english translators helping me. It was created before the tiger cranes was put together. Does any one know the form learning a tiger form that I’m talking about?
I never saw anyone do it in the states, but remember seeing it in a lot of old shaw brother films, haha.[/QUOTE]
Usually the form before Tiger/Crane is Gung Ji Fook Fu Kuen (Cross pattern taming the tiger form)…
Okay. You are talking about the “Tiger” part of Ng Ying Kuen (Five “shape”.pattern Form). I haven’t read the book but it is published by Leung Ting so :o
Ng Ying Kuen is a proper Hung Gar Form with the “pattern” of tiger/cheetah/dragon/snake/crane. There is also a Sup Ying Kuen (Ten “Shape”/pattern). which is tiger/cheetah/dragon/snake/crane/metal/wood/water/fire/earth.
i was told the form is a tiger form. i don’t see any other animals in the form. it has the common horse stance and four fingers bent pointer finger straight dynamic tension exercise, and the long uppercut punches. at one point in the form it has both arms extended in a tiger claw, one in front of the body while one is behind the body while standing on one leg.
One called wiz cool c
What do you seek from the internet or videoclips that you think you cannot get from practice
You ask for things but what do you hope to achieve by getting what you ask?
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{In the voice of a young Kwai Chang Kain } I wish to know the history of the form i just learned but i cannot get the proper translations master.
My Kajukenbo has some tiger from the Mitose link my Hop ga techniques have a lot of tiger and the one and a half forms I know so far from Bak mei is total tiger…what’s the historical connection between Kenpo, Lama, CLF, Hung ga and BM sharing Shaolin Lohan and 5 animal technique specifically for this topic the tiger shape?. I was told Hung Ga extends their tiger frame more…can any one elaborate on this and more?. 
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That tiger form inspired me to eat a chicken sandwich after being a vegetarian for 21 years, but it was just a one time thing. Still vegetarian.
[QUOTE=diego;1001183]My Kajukenbo has some tiger from the Mitose link my Hop ga techniques have a lot of tiger and the one and a half forms I know so far from Bak mei is total tiger…what’s the historical connection between Kenpo, Lama, CLF, Hung ga and BM sharing Shaolin Lohan and 5 animal technique specifically for this topic the tiger shape?. I was told Hung Ga extends their tiger frame more…can any one elaborate on this and more?. :)[/QUOTE]
It is said that “Tiger form trains the bones” - a look at the elongated stretching of the tiger form with its “Tun Yiu, Lok Ma” (Suck in waist, drop horse) shape puts a load of weight and stresses the body…thereby developing the bones.
Looking at the classical move “Mang Fu Ha Shan” is a good example (with GM Chiu Wai, from HK, a very good example):
Are those weights in the back ground I see ??
THE HORROR !!!
:eek:
[QUOTE=chusauli;1001304]It is said that “Tiger form trains the bones” - a look at the elongated stretching of the tiger form with its “Tun Yiu, Lok Ma” (Suck in waist, drop horse) shape puts a load of weight and stresses the body…thereby developing the bones.
Looking at the classical move “Mang Fu Ha Shan” is a good example (with GM Chiu Wai, from HK, a very good example):
http://www.hkhunggar.com/Chiu%20Wai%20876.JPG[/QUOTE]
It’s very interesting, in Bak Mei the stance is more extended at the front knee the bridges are a bit smaller but that same sunken square tiger is there..
In my fitness theory books one of them mentioned in the popular libraries of physical research out of 1000 articles maybe 448 will be on gymnastics and like 4 will be on martial art…this is terrible, it tells me that no matter how good your favorite TMA guy is if he trained in a laboratory setting he would be that much better as his training would be made more efficient.
I wonder what loopholes Kungfumagazine would have to go through to secure a grant to study Lohan & 5 Animals in nasa physical science labs:D once the monies are secured forum members and subscription holders can send in video of their forms for gene & the government to disect. This would be great ad campaign to get more subscribers and more knowledgeable contributors to the forum.
For now it would be cool to figure out how many popular drills are out there in the CMA world with similar tiger shapes but different fighting strengths & attitudes. Everyone presses and shoots claw straight in sunken stance..how many tiger Chin na’s are popular in the Gung Fu circles?.
When the wushu movement came out in the Nixon days did the government of china do much research into the anatomy of Shaolin?.
[QUOTE=sanjuro_ronin;1001305]Are those weights in the back ground I see ??
THE HORROR !!!
:eek:
:D[/QUOTE]
LOL! Nah, Traditional martial arts with weights?!
Hung Ga is known for the body building - in fact, to impress chicks, you need Hung Ga movie moves and weight training to the repetoire… big chest and arms help - and the low stances develop your legs - so no chicken legs here.
[QUOTE=chusauli;1001557]LOL! Nah, Traditional martial arts with weights?!
Hung Ga is known for the body building - in fact, to impress chicks, you need Hung Ga movie moves and weight training to the repetoire… big chest and arms help - and the low stances develop your legs - so no chicken legs here. :)[/QUOTE]
I remember when I got back with my first Hung Kuen Sifu a few years ago, he looked at me and said, " I am glad you are starting to look like a Hung MAN".
LMAO !!!
[QUOTE=sanjuro_ronin;1001570]I remember when I got back with my first Hung Kuen Sifu a few years ago, he looked at me and said, " I am glad you are starting to look like a Hung MAN".
LMAO !!![/QUOTE]
Yes, the founder of Hung Ga was Wun Hung Lo, not Hung Hei Goon.
Not everyone can claim to be Hung Ga or a Hung Man. Its all in the way you open your stance - with grande huevos.
[QUOTE=chusauli;1001652]Yes, the founder of Hung Ga was Wun Hung Lo, not Hung Hei Goon.
Not everyone can claim to be Hung Ga or a Hung Man. Its all in the way you open your stance - with grande huevos.[/QUOTE]
I’ve been told that I’m a rather “hung” man… :eek::D:p
yeah, hung like a hamster…:rolleyes:
[QUOTE=chusauli;1001652]Yes, the founder of Hung Ga was Wun Hung Lo, not Hung Hei Goon.
Not everyone can claim to be Hung Ga or a Hung Man. Its all in the way you open your stance - with grande huevos.[/QUOTE]
Robert has Fu Jow Pai’d the correct right in the prostate !
It is funny though because when I first did HK with this Sifu back in the late 80’s, I was all of 140 lbs and when I got back with him a few years ago, I am now 170 ( at 5’-6") and pretty muscular and strong.
He said I was finally ready to be a Hung Fighter !!
[QUOTE=TenTigers;1001680]yeah, hung like a hamster…:rolleyes:[/QUOTE]
Heh, heh, well maybe a giant prehistoric hamster the size of a bull…
[QUOTE=cerebus;1001754]Heh, heh, well maybe a giant prehistoric hamster the size of a bull…:D[/QUOTE]
a Hamstersaurus Rex?
