Hung Kuen - Fu Ying Kuen (Tiger Fist) does anyone know this form, any info would be great, also if there are any video links other then youtube showing this form, would be great. Thanks for any info.
[QUOTE=wiz cool c;997389]Hung Kuen - Fu Ying Kuen (Tiger Fist) does anyone know this form, any info would be great, also if there are any video links other then youtube showing this form, would be great. Thanks for any info.[/QUOTE]
Fu Ying Kuen could be the Fook Fu portion of the set Gung Gi Fook Fu Kuen.
Fu Ying (tiger shape) is not a standard set and may be an adaptation that is used in your particular kwoon to bring familiarity to the early entrant player of the style.
Alternately, this could be part of the Ha Say Fu Hung Gar which has the Tiger shape set, Leopard, Crane, Snake and Dragon all organized as individual sets.
So, the first part would be to state what lineage is this coming from, what school and then from there it would be a little easier to identify.
All I know is it’s Hung Chuan, I guess that could be any style in that system.
Also I have seen this form before in some old shawbrother films. I think my teacher was saying it is older then the tiger crane form before the two where put together, but i could be wrong about that, cause he was speaking in chinese and my listening skill are pretty bad.
you’re relying on a movie for information?
[QUOTE=TenTigers;997412]you’re relying on a movie for information?[/QUOTE]
You say that as if it was a bad thing !
[QUOTE=David Jamieson;997399]Fu Ying Kuen could be the Fook Fu portion of the set Gung Gi Fook Fu Kuen.[/QUOTE]Not sure if you’ve checked it out yet?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nTeH0NJabWA
Look familiar or not?
[QUOTE=CFT;997417]Not sure if you’ve checked it out yet?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nTeH0NJabWA
Look familiar or not?[/QUOTE]
Not. When compared with LSW Hung Gar.
This looks like more old school Hung Gar.
Doesn’t even look like Ha Say Fu, but does break the sets into the individual Sil Lum 5 animals.
Nicely played though. I watched a couple of the other ones. this flavour of Hung Kuen is good! I like it.
There’s a lot of clips on the channel. Very varied.
can’t see it if it’s on youtube, i’m in shenzhen china, i guess you guys don’t know. i think they don’t teach this in the states, thanks anyway.
[QUOTE=wiz cool c;997660]can’t see it if it’s on youtube, i’m in shenzhen china, i guess you guys don’t know. i think they don’t teach this in the states, thanks anyway.[/QUOTE]
wing lam teaches a style called ha say fu.
it’s shaolin 5 animals with each animal having it’s own set and also there are weapons sets.
This style resembles that old style of hung gar.
check this out
http://www.hasayfu.com/videos/stylesofhasayfu
this is one of wing lams students who now does the ha say fu.
Look at the open and the tightness of the coiling hands.
fairly similar. not exactly the same, but on a hunch, i’d say these are related somewhere. I mean outside of the obvious shaolin/southern styles connection.
ok how about this, hu he shuang xing, i think it is the name of the form i’m learning, any one know this?
[QUOTE=4 Dragons;998162]http://www.cantaikungfu.com/index.cfm?page=13[/QUOTE]
cool. Bolton is just north of me and Missisauga is to the west.
so, is this the same style?
Hung Hei-Guen’s name wasn’t Hung, it was Jyu, and he took the surname Hung aout of loyalty to the Ming. Hung Mo-Jue was the first Emperor of the Ming Dynasty, whose line was ended by the Ching invasion. Hung-Ga is so named for patriotism to the Ming, otherwise it would simply be called, Siu-Lum.
[QUOTE=wiz cool c;998026]ok how about this, hu he shuang xing, i think it is the name of the form i’m learning, any one know this?[/QUOTE]Tiger Crane form? I’m sure there are people here who can comment.
yes that is basically the mandarin way of saying fu hok seurng ying kuen. (tiger/crane double shape fist)
[QUOTE=TenTigers;998395]Hung Hei-Guen’s name wasn’t Hung, it was Jyu, and he took the surname Hung aout of loyalty to the Ming. Hung Mo-Jue was the first Emperor of the Ming Dynasty, whose line was ended by the Ching invasion. Hung-Ga is so named for patriotism to the Ming, otherwise it would simply be called, Siu-Lum.[/QUOTE]
Hung Kuen is often called “sil lum hung kuen” or “sil lum tiger and crane style”
Some styles use it, others go for the more filial pai stuff in the name.
[QUOTE=David Jamieson;998415]Hung Kuen is often called “sil lum hung kuen” or “sil lum tiger and crane style”
Some styles use it, others go for the more filial pai stuff in the name.[/QUOTE]
true, we use the term Siu Lum Hung Kuen and Hung-Gar interchangably, in fact our t-shirts say Siu Lum Hung Kuen.
I was just curious about why they left out the reason for Hung Hei-Guen’s name being,“Hung,” and the patriotic aspect. I guess each line has their own version, just as some WCK lines say Yim Wing Chun, others say Hope for the Future, or Beautiful Springtime, etc.
[QUOTE=TenTigers;998431]true, we use the term Siu Lum Hung Kuen and Hung-Gar interchangably, in fact our t-shirts say Siu Lum Hung Kuen.
I was just curious about why they left out the reason for Hung Hei-Guen’s name being,“Hung,” and the patriotic aspect. I guess each line has their own version, just as some WCK lines say Yim Wing Chun, others say Hope for the Future, or Beautiful Springtime, etc.[/QUOTE]
I think as Hung men, it is our solemn duty to not get mixed up with those cantankerous and rowdy wing chun brats. 
or “sil lum lite” as it is called.