I read somewhere that Hung Fut has 10 animals? I’m aware that its roots have some origin in Hung Ga. Can someone please list the other 10 remaining animals?
Also, can someone please post a list of forms/sets of the style? Thanks
LTN
10 and 12 animals seem to belong to Xingyi (Hsing I)
Hung Gar is big on 5 animals (snake, crane, dragon, leopard and tiger) but also has “10 killing hands” you think maybe it was this you heard of?
I haven’t heard of 10 animals in a common place way within Hung Gar.
10 animals of southern kung fu
tiger
crane
leopard
snake
dragon
elephant
monkey
horse
lion
tiger cub
I believe some mistake Sup Ying Kuen in Hung Gar as 10 Animals when I think it is 5 Animals (Tiger, Dragon, Snake, Crane & Panther) & 5 Elements (Metal, Earth, Wood, Water & Fire).
On a side note: CLF has deer as one of its 10 animals (albeit not in my lineage).
I think this book by Kwan Tak Hing goes on about the Hung family and its fists…could that be the lead?? His foster father was Fok Hung,
[QUOTE=CLFNole;1233037]I believe some mistake Sup Ying Kuen in Hung Gar as 10 Animals when I think it is 5 Animals (Tiger, Dragon, Snake, Crane & Panther) & 5 Elements (Metal, Earth, Wood, Water & Fire).
On a side note: CLF has deer as one of its 10 animals (albeit not in my lineage).[/QUOTE]
WFH hung ga = 5 animals and 5 elements
not really “sup ying” but “ng ying ng haang kuen” is hard to wrap tongue around
There is village hung kuen and hung Fut with 10 animals
I hve seen various lists for CLF 10 animals
“tiger cub” made me lol. I 'm sure you were laughing when you typed it.
9 out of 10 that lkfmdc put up are among HF 10 animals. The other one is Eagle.
Pretty much what LKFMDC said. You might find people swap in and out 1 or 2 (like the deer mentioned above) but most of those sound right.
[QUOTE=brothernumber9;1233082]“tiger cub” made me lol. I 'm sure you were laughing when you typed it.[/QUOTE]
“biu” is a “tiger cub”… perfectly serious, get over it
I was told “biu” refered to deer but the tiger cub thing came up as well with that however the person said biu also referred to a deer in someway. The deer is used in the Chan Family lineage, whereas I have seen tiger cub in others. My wife said the characters used in DFWs list refers to a tiger not a deer (lok).
Supposedly it involves avey archaic character not really used anymore that shares the same sound as biu - tiger cub. This character is said to mean something like “golden flaming deer.”
and has the radical for deer on the right side of the character and on the left side is metal and underneath the deer radical is fire. There were links to the character but they no longer work so who knows.
Hung Kuen 10 Animals :
Tiger, Snake, Leopard, Crane, Dragon, Elephant, Lion, Horse, Monkey and Wild Cat
[QUOTE=Howard;1233225]Hung Kuen 10 Animals :
Tiger, Snake, Leopard, Crane, Dragon, Elephant, Lion, Horse, Monkey and Wild Cat[/QUOTE]
Interesting. So the Hung Fut schools have the other 5?
I have heard of deer and bear and horse as well, but I think these are related to Hsing I.
anyway…
this is still interesting.
[QUOTE=CLFNole;1233185]I was told “biu” refered to deer but the tiger cub thing came up as well with that however the person said biu also referred to a deer in someway. The deer is used in the Chan Family lineage, whereas I have seen tiger cub in others. My wife said the characters used in DFWs list refers to a tiger not a deer (lok).
Supposedly it involves avey archaic character not really used anymore that shares the same sound as biu - tiger cub. This character is said to mean something like “golden flaming deer.”
and has the radical for deer on the right side of the character and on the left side is metal and underneath the deer radical is fire. There were links to the character but they no longer work so who knows.[/QUOTE]
My dictionairies are in boxes in the basement, but I had the character, it is “fu” with a “sam dim soi” if you know what that means… in a classical dictionary it means a tiger cub
There is also Ba Ji Chuan which has the Bear and Tiger…
[QUOTE=lkfmdc;1233241]My dictionairies are in boxes in the basement, but I had the character, it is “fu” with a “sam dim soi” if you know what that means… in a classical dictionary it means a tiger cub[/QUOTE]
That character, right?
[QUOTE=Runlikehell;1233634]
That character, right?[/QUOTE]
actually, yes, that is it
[QUOTE=CLFNole;1233037]I believe some mistake Sup Ying Kuen in Hung Gar as 10 Animals when I think it is 5 Animals (Tiger, Dragon, Snake, Crane & Panther) & 5 Elements (Metal, Earth, Wood, Water & Fire).
On a side note: CLF has deer as one of its 10 animals (albeit not in my lineage).[/QUOTE]
Interesting…
Are the Hung Gar 5 elements the same as the Hsing-i 5 elements (ie: 5 fists)?
The names of the elements are the same, but the techniques are Wong Fei Hung’s interpretation of the long arm techniques of Lama from Wong Yan Lum.
Yeah, pretty much the elements (in WFHs Hung Gar) are considered to be the different long arm techniques but the more you dig into the system the elements become more than that. I was starting to get a glimpse of them until I moved to another style. Its some very interesting stuff.