[QUOTE=Psycho Mantis;934621]I consider sweeps and toppling motions to be seperate from kicking motions, they are written with a different character and apply different applications of force. The spinning low sweep you speak of is not common at all in mantis, and actually violates quite a few of the core principles. I don’t know of a single form or technique which contains that move.
Common mantis sweeps.
7 Star sweep, Left hand grabs opponents left arm, right hand across top to throat, right leg sweeps opponents left leg from behind.
7 Star Topple, left hand grabs opponents arm, left leg serves as a post for their right leg to trip over, right hand applies force
Praying mantis topple, same as 7 star topple, but you sink and use the circle entering stance to trap opponents right leg
Toppling Palm, left hand grabs right arm, right leg kicks out opponents right leg, right hand applies force, end in a bow and arrow stance perpindicular to opponent.
Big wheel toppling, same as toppling palm but end in horse stance with big chopping strike to chest.[/QUOTE]
maybe I saw that sweep in wu-shu and confused contemporary with traditional…lol
Thanks for the kicking info it’s much appreciated.
Another main difference is targets. Kickboxing has limited targets, mantis goes for joints and soft targets such as knees, inside of thigh, groin. It also uses kicks to simultaneously strike and avoid. Here are some excerpts from articles by my kung fu uncle, Professor Randy Choy, talking about leg strikes (kicks) in bung bo and lan jie chuan (cck tcpm versions).
Don’t forget about the leg strikes. In this boxing form, I have identified four basic leg strikes to practice. The first leg strike is the “Scoop the Crotch Leg” (Liao Yin Tui) found in posture 3. The second is the “Mandarin duck leg” (Yuan Yang Tui) found in posture 53. The third leg strike is the “Leg bump” (Zha Tui), a strike to your opponent’s knee and shin area, executed as a hidden strike after performing “Agile cat capturing a rat.” The fourth leg strikes is also a hidden strike called, “Sprouting leg” (Jiu Tui) executed while delivering sideways striking. In the “Rules of Chuan,” you want to “Simultaneously kick with evasive body movements” (Jiao Qu Shen Li). Think about it.
Referring to the “Rules of Chuan,” there is the “Kicking techniques using evasive body movements” (Jiao Qu Shen Li), found in posture 43, “Mandarin duck kick” and in posture 52, “Whirlwind kick.”
maybe I saw that sweep in wu-shu and confused contemporary with traditional…lol