Hey! guys.
There is cliche in English.
U don’t have to respect his BS, but You have to respect him as a person. Don’t take it personal level guys.
forget ego
:o
“don’t be a fool, there are technical schools that teach nothing but skills (many of the various “reality” schools do this) and there are colleges that are for the whole experience. i think FT’s school is more for the latter. will learning Lion Dance teach you how to punch better? perhaps not. will learning to call your teacher ‘sifu’ have a direct result on your Sei Ping Ma? not likely. will it teach you culture, background, enrich your experience and the virtue of Mo Duk?” - Greymystic
“ykm has a long tradition in lion and dragon dancing, and yes it helps with kung fu to a degree.” Fiercetiger
So what is it, does it or does it (lion dancing) not help with kung fu. This is so shameful when students of the same style can’t stand up to cross - examination. So who is correct Greymystic or Fiercetiger.
In any case, Greymystic, there are other cultural centres that teach you all you want ot know about chinese culture and specialize in that! Why dilute your learning in kung fu class. Tell me this, does a physics class require its students to recite passages from Shakespear? Would yo usay that it is inapporpriate?
If you agree (which I think you have little choice) then why does a self defence class teach you how to dance? Does a cha cha class teach you how to fight?
if not, shouldn’t old traditions be challenged such as to be consistent woth modern society? Ask your sifu.
blah blah
ego, are you tired of talking about this topic?
you know you are right so leave it man! 
lets talk about something else like where you train?
Fiercetiger
stop taunting me! My body’s crippled from the accident. I don’t train kung fu anymore.
“So what is it, does it or does it (lion dancing) not help with kung fu.”
- Yes!
There that was easy, now wait till you hear my brilliant reason;)
Your legs get stronger from the stances, your footwork improves due to the constant movement. Your arm strength and grip improve due swinging around a heavy lion head.
You would never guess it but these same attributes are all usefull skills in kung fu.
Now wait for the really great part about lion dancing…
You get to dress up as a big funky lion then jump around to a drum for ages before dying in a pool of your own sweat.
Im soooooooo looking forward to doing some more of it:D
seems your mind & mouth were crippled too.
vts
Limitations
Ego-Since the accident I don’t train kung Fu anymore.
Poor excuse, I take it you still have the use of part of your body.
You still have your mind and spirit so why give up so easy?
Maybe you could create your own style?
yeh, i’m sure rich mooney has some quality stuff you could use, besides that i’m sure he’d be glad to have you as a friend & living in laa laa land with him.
hey i know, maybe you could marry him & get him to project his chi balls at us for making fun of the crippled boy.
how does shing yi stand up to pak mei & wing chun?
by getting up out of the chair, oh i’m sorry, you wouldn’t know that cause you can’t do it.
i can’t wait for the day when your computer becomes crippled & we no longer have to here you rave on with absolute dribble.
vts
to everyone else, yes, i know i’m gonna burn in hell for that, but:p
Ego
stop tryin to split me and FT, it won’t happen. firstly his post questioned when the southern stylists used the lion dance techniques for fighting, not gungfu, so his statement does not contradict mine at all. there is more to gungfu than self-defense, so i completely disagree with your statement.
physics students are not required to read shakespeare IN PHYSICS CLASS , but english literature (or substitute language of choice) is a part of schools that teach the whole curriculum, so that is how your analogy fits in. if you didn’t learn how to communicate, your physics study won’t be real useful because you won’t comprehend and be able to play by the game rules, i.e. symbolic reasoning. therefore english study will likely benefit your physics study in other ways, just like lion dance may benefit your self-defense in other ways.
gungfu does not translate to ‘self defense class’, you should know this.
oh and fyi FT and i are not students of the same style… so there goes that reasoning. :rolleyes:
Ego is just mad cuz he can’t lion dance. Imagine the head having wheels for feet!!! BWAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHA
Besides we’re just peasants anyway.
LOL illusion see u in hell also
i AGREE with jon on the lion dance training, also dont worry greymystic we know each other for this to start sh!t.
ego,
there are a few wheel chair martial artist that are teachers, so dont give up. seriously dont give up!!
Yum Cha-
Go and Yum some Cha, take it easy.
I didn’t say a word about your unfortunate sister.
TIger Hand
Dude normaly i wouldnt bother posting but its a bit unfair for Yum Cha to now have to point this out…
For a start if im not mistaken your a Bak Mei student yourself? If thats the case then YC is your senior and i hope you dont refer to your sihings in class in the same disrespectful way.
“I didn’t say a word about your unfortunate sister.”
- The point of his post is one i have also made to you before…
Picking on ego is no problem but bear one thing in mind, its highly likely he is NOT in a wheelchair and is simply saying that. This is the internet and not everyone tells the whole truth;) That being the case your picking on the wheelchair bound is actualy quite offensive to anyone who either IS in a wheelchair or knows someone who is.
Please think a little about what your posting, you can rebut ego without offending the millions of martial artists accross the globe who do an ammazing job of continuing on dispite there predicament.
I know some very knowledgeable artists on this very message board who really are wheelchair bound and who practice with the full heart and soul. I PRAY that they dont have this misfortune to read this particular thread…
Jon-
Point well made. Certainly i do not want to offend anyone who had some misfortune.
But, if you can see from the previous few post I am not the only one who is poking at ego’s “limp a$$”.
Also, just because i practice bak mei, Yum Cha is automatically my senior? Why is that?
TIger Hand
“if you can see from the previous few post I am not the only one who is poking at ego’s “limp a$$”.”
- As i say go for your life on ego, heck i do:D Im just saying to try and avoid offending others in the process;)
“Also, just because i practice bak mei, Yum Cha is automatically my senior? Why is that?”
- This is totaly up to yourself…
For me i view every practioner of my own arts who have studied for longer to be a senior, after all we are just one extended family. As such i will always show face to a senior even if i dont directly agree with what there saying. I do the same thing in class and i also try to do it online. I will disagree but i will be carefull to do it in a respectfull way.
In my opinion it just shows good moral and it also gives the art a good public face with the apperence of members all having mutual respect for one another.
As i say its not vital and its up to you to follow or not but for me i would watch how i speak to seniors.
Yum Cha to my knowledge is quite respected and liked there is no need for you to be brash with him. Correct me if im wrong but i think Yum Cha may even teach which most definately makes him a senior.
Not a personal thing dude i like many of your posts and find them funny, just asking you watch a little what you say occasional 
Gets me in trouble constantly as well.
jon-
Iam not being brash with Yum Cha, nor did i intend any such meaning.
Again, how do you automatically assume Yum Cha studied longer than me?
Yum Cha teaches…so?
Their are people who teach who shouldn’t be teaching, and their are people who should be teaching, that aren’t.
Of course, not to say that Yum Cha is one of the ones who shouldn’t be, no disrespect to Yum Cha.
Re: balance
Guys, ignore this guy call sui fui
This guy pretend to be chinese by speaking few hakka. He is one of the chinese american doesn’t read chinese. (which is usual in America)
Look at how he write english chinese “big brother”,
“diy low”
Should I teach you?
There is no official chinese-english write like that.
Sui Fuw. I wonder who are u. You claim to be hakka. You can’t read chinese. You can’t write english chinese!
Can you write your own name in english chinese?
I doubt it.
Mind you, I study english chinese for sometime. I still don’t understand it. So, Are you chinese? Can you speak mandarin? Can you write chinese?
Do you know where is Xi’amen?
(this is very easy official chinese english)
what about Xue’ ?
(This is very easy official chinese english)
Do you know where is Hakka come from? Why people are calling themselves hakka?
"compassion?cloud clearly expresses this and make a fine poit,however does ego learn?yummy?or his sister?
i know many that are in wheelchairs,but great men are measured in what they “acheive or do"and not what they” think".
but as a begginer what do i know?where everyone is my senior or should i not speak???eh…jon
p.s i treat ego as a person not less b/c he’s in a wheelchair.
life is…? how do accept the cards that are delt to us???
i know many that are in wheelchairs,but great men are measured in what they “acheive or do"and not what they” think".
but as a begginer what do i know?where everyone is my senior or should i not speak???eh…jon"
Wow.
You words really weights. I should listen to you!
I am the same person on the net as in real life. I may be a little different on the net. However, I don’t utter BS. When I promise something. I will deliver to the very end. That way I get people to trust me.
Moreover, I won’t utter something that don’t fit my qualification.
Such as these words, the great ones like mother teresa only can qualify to speak like this, because she put her efforts into it. It matches her.
Well. I have enough fun playing with this children called sui fuw.
He is probably playing with GI Joe. Pretending he is a chinese. He can’t even write chinese english. He put it up on the net.
Am I right? You don’t know how to write chinese english?
You know. I really have enough good laugh for your chinese english.
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sui-fuw
"where everyone is my senior or should i not speak???eh…jon "
- Dont play with my words sui-fuw, you know me better than that i think - even if only in text;)
My point was to not be disrepectfull towards others of the same system. Not everyone will do as i do and i dont expect them to, doesnt mean i cant have my say when i see a point i wish to make. Still i do try and keep my points respectfull particualy when dealing with those who are open about who they are and what they represent.
You and I have different goals here sui-fuw but do we not still both enjoy what we do?
Your hands may be normaly closed but does that mean that those who are usualy open are automaticaly doing the wrong thing?
BTW I give you respect do i not?
Maybe i view you as senior or maybe i view everyone as equals but give respect to those who have already walked my path before me. I never know wether im coming or going, perhaps its better that way.
I just follow your force sui-fuw, just try not to tire to early
Gee
Golly, such a simple troll actually turned this into an interesting thread.
My sister is fit and dandy. My point, well carried by Jon in his so terribly consciencious manner, is that the anonymity doesn’t excuse you for bad taste, and within yourself, you know that’s true.
Pay your money and take your chances.
…now where’s my tea.
By the way,
I do have a handicapped nephew with basically no arms who fights able bodied opponents in Tae Kwon Do. He made it to state level for 16 year old. Arts are so called because we have to put ourselves into them to make them complete.