Originally posted by Judge Pen
MK, GM Sin The didn’t melt a baby. His first teacher burned a baby after training in sand burn in Indonesia. If your going to make fun, then make fun of the proper people!
In the DVD “At the Feet of the Grandmaster” Sin The’ says he melted a baby with his own hands after doing Iron Palm training. No?
No. It’s easy to misunderstand him with his accent. It was his first teacher. He was supposedly handed his baby after training, but his hands were still hot and the baby died from the burns. He stopped training so GM Sin had to find a new teacher. He found Master Ie.
But he says he melted a baby.
Your saying he really meant something else, but that’s what he says, right?
If only the baby had had a hard candy coating, this tragedy could have been prevented.
Originally posted by MasterKiller
[B]But he says he melted a baby.
Your saying he really meant something else, but that’s what he says, right? [/B]
I’ve read this story in the article from IKF in 1987 and heard it straight from his mouth. I’m 100 % sure of this point.
CSN, LMAO!
JP - I was trying to be a little funny - I gave TWS a hard time over the source of the CBS forgeries… so to accept another statement would be questionable on my part. But I also wanted to point out that I respected TWS, even though I find myself giving him crap on almost anything. It’s a friendly debate, I think.
Wait! Is that the sound of willows I hear?
Wasn’t baby melting the main reason the PRC killed or jailed so many traditional martial arts masters during the cultural revolution?
Can’t wait to see this become a ‘fact’ in OYD or somewhere…
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My baby melting technique is too deadly for the ring.
90% of all melting babies go to the ground.
In a baby-melting fight, one guy goes to the hospital and one guy goes to the cemetary.
Originally posted by MonkeySlap Too
[B]JP - I was trying to be a little funny - I gave TWS a hard time over the source of the CBS forgeries… so to accept another statement would be questionable on my part. But I also wanted to point out that I respected TWS, even though I find myself giving him crap on almost anything. It’s a friendly debate, I think.
Wait! Is that the sound of willows I hear? [/B]
Ah, ok. I thought you were taking what I said has an attack on TWS, and it wasn’t meant to be that at all.
Always fun to watch our annual SD bash.
Well, because honestly I don’t really care all that much. I know that Grandmaster Sin is a good guy, so I believe that what he tells us is the truth. I also believe that even if it were not the truth, there was probably a honest mistake somewhere along the way (i.e. I don’t think he’s the type to decieve us).
LOL
funniest thing I’ve seen in a long time.
i did not take offense to any of it, so no worries. hehehe JP nice reply. yeah well my credible source is in the ng family system,information was relayed to me about the pakua that SD does. but i twas relayed to me AFTER i had quit and absolved myself. i never really knew any of the “*******izations” until i got out and then the information started flowing like a river. then the true identity of the Hairy grandmanster came to light(which some of the people in the Sd realm will deny and say,"that person looks nothing like GM Su,when in fact they aree the same person)
i dont mind talking about it now…i did my research thoroughly and it just confirmed what i was being told by concerned allies all along. anyway it is neither here nor there,i dont support SD i will steer ANYONE away from the SD school if they ask ME about joining the school,whether my reasons are personal or other wise is of no consequence. i Always knew that Sd wasnt totally a CMA school,in fact i accepted that it wasnt but i had to keep my mouth shut and i had to watch what i said for fear of being scrutinized like i was back in the day when they thought i was some “spy”(because of my prior affiliation with an Ng family teacher) coming to steal thier forms,LOL what a riot,i look back on that particular incident and just laugh my a$$ off.
Hey at the time all i was wanting to do was learn to be a teacher of martial arts, learn the internals and be a part of a school that would help me in this endeavor of becoming a teacher,and whereas i was helped to a degree,that help only served to further someone elses aspirations for THEM to get ahead and take all favorites with and leave others behind(good people were passed over,dedicated people). its a big McDojo now,haha even my prior massage therapy school i went to ,buys into their crap. They focus on quantity rather than quality these days. its actually like what you see when you go in to a TKD school and even though i think TDK is ineffective i STILL have more respect for them than i do SD. At least a TKD school IS what it says it IS.
Monkeyslap? i am having problems with my inbox,i dont know if its my computer or what,but if you replied to my PM please send the reply again as i did not get it. ,hey i mean i will just bring it up here,no secrets really…
i will end this post and do another one that talks about what i was pming MST about
there is a video tape of the SD hsing i curriculum with the exception of the two man set. it was offerred to us at the time as an “extra course” and so a bunch of us,including ME,decided to jump on it.
the last night of the 3 month course on learning the 5 fists the linkage and the 12 animal steps(yes in 3 months) someone videotaped the last night of the class. the teacher who was instructing us(all you SD guys know who the Austin Teacher is right?) he decided to demonstrate all the forms(katas,hehe) so that we would have a record of it. he also demonstrates in this video the 5 animal frolics qiqong sets(which i did not think was all that bad) what got to me after everything was said and done(when i quit) and began to look at the REAL hsing i from traditional CMA masters,were the glaring inconsistancies,what you see is essentially a modified or what i like to call “b@stardized” set of forms that were taken from who knows where,hsing i has pretty simple movements so it would be easy to forge your own based on traditional movements and call it your own( i dont think this is too bad,but when you look at what SD claims as a history and lineage, in its general terms,you begin to see the farse emerge right in your face)
i mean we all have our own expression of the movements of any given form we are taught,i did my Sd forms more like CMA rather than the kempo style that you see in the vid demos,i have been told this by people outside of SD that my movements looked CMA,and thats due to my CMA training before SD.
So in essence i am actually glad that things happened as they did for me for i could very well have put the CMA flair in the forms that so many thought were not there and continued to propagate the SD rhetoric(now i dont think that i was the best teacher or practitioner there,hell no) and i remained humble in the face of all compliments and praise for my abilities as a teacher there(mainly from the students and NOT my fellow B-Belt peers OR the main instructor) i may have been percieved as someone who though he was the best,but my answer to all of that is this,when you love to do something and you walk with confidence NOT arrogance,those who question thier own abilities will tend to attack those who have a “content” to thier movements rather than just a “flair” or “form”.
Peace,,TWS
Yeah, I do. The woman I’m dating has family in Columbus. Next time I’m up we should touch base although it will probably be in the “crutches” stage of my recovery so that’s no fun.
Lol, there’s a possibilty I may be on crutches too! We could have a crutch battle 
I’ve been having bad knee problems and I’m afraid something may be torn. Last time I had reconstructive surgery(4 years ago) I jumped into training too fast and I don’t think everything healed up as it should. I was starting to feel better though, until I hurt both my knees this summer building a patio. Now I’m hobbling around on and off all the time Let me know next time you’re in town though, and maybe I could introduce you to my teacher(finally opened his own school this year).
Excellent Brad. I’ll do that. I’m going to need a lot of patience cause I want to heal up right before I jump back into training. I’ll keep in touch.
TWS, I think you are right about a couple of things. Quantity over quality is the emphasis in a lot of SD schools AND there are different ways to “express” the forms. You did it with a CMA flair because of your prior training. I believe that my forms have a CMA flair because of the quality of my teacher’s instruction. I think that if one really focuses on the forms and the subtleties, they will look more recognizable in their principles to the people here. Unfortunately, this is rarely done.
CRIPPLE FIGHT!
Originally posted by MasterKiller
CRIPPLE FIGHT!
My money’s on the lawyer crip… in the end, he wins regardless…