Many dont spar and if they do they dont do it in such a fashion that it will properly benifit. The movements are all exectued well but what difference does it make when you have no idea why they where made that way in the first place.
I couldn’t agree more. I posted something similar on the WC board and was immediately told by the “experts” :rolleyes: how unneccesary sparring was, that Chi sao was the be all and end all, etc.
Oh well. Maybe one day they’ll find out I for one found that surfing was much harder to do than to talk about, or pretend to do. I wonder if a parallel can be drawn?
So this guy was at a bar. He was a tough guy, been in a lot of fights, you know, a good ol’ boy. He starts messin’ with the wait staff and being a general pain in the arse to all the patrons. So’s a bouncer walks up to the guy to pursuade 'im to leave. The guy figures he’s the biggest and baddest guy on the planet so he doesn’t want to leave. As a matta’o’fact the guy decides he wants to fight the bouncer. Wham bam smack bam the guy hits the ground. The bouncer didn’t even throw a punch cuz the other three bouncers already had 'im down.
The moral of the story is: fighting multiple opponents and having any success is a myth.
Here’s a koan for ya: What would I do if I was fighting two of myself?
Didn’t anybody here read Bruce Lee’s plagiarized version of Musoshi’s “Book of Five Rings”? You know, “Tao of Jeet Kune Do”, ok, it’s not a direct plagiarism because he added some of Yagyu’s “Family Traditions” and mixed and matched some bits of philosophy with how-to pics.
Anyway, fightin’ is fightin’. How did it go? “Unless somebody has 5 arms and 8 legs, then how can they fight different?” or whatever.
A kick that works looks like a kick that works, same goes for a throw, or a joint lock…
San Shou isn’t wrestling, mixed with thai, mixed with… it’s San Shou.
You people bore me. Jon, you’re on to something. Stick with it and see where it goes.
Most Martial artists are like ostriches sticking their heads in the sand. The ignore function facilitates that. Let’s ignore everybody who doesn’t agree with us and live in a perpetual fantasy world. Oh yeah, we must never, I mean NEVER, fight. cuz our techniques are too deadly. Besides, all that other stuff is just sport fightin’. BELIEVE THE LIE!
Your missing the whole concept of ground figthing CD Lee. It’s entirely for the non violent assult-less submission of women on a rampage. For the male it is simply a matter of taking her to the ground with out striking her, and manuvering for the right position to engage in make-up sex.
Originally posted by SevenStar 2. reassurance if you ever do get attacked…even though it may be a false reassurance in some cases…
Actually, I take a tai chi class separate from my ‘kung-fu’ class. The teacher and I were talking one day about the ‘kung-fu’ class, what I thought about it, how the class was sturctured, stuff like that. He was just curious about what other people were doing.
I said, “You know, now that I’ve been there for over a year, I’ve noticed that, metaphorically speaking, I’m a bit more willing to walk down those dark alleys. And I can’t ignore that this confidence is probably false. I am beginning to worry that my training may be doing me more harm than good.”
He said, “No, I wouldn’t worry. Confidence, false or true, will act as a deterrant to attacks. If you’re walking down the street with your head held high like you can take care of business, the ‘guy in the alley’ will wait for the next girl. Not that he’d be afraid you might beat him up. But he’ll probably figure you’ll be a big headache, struggling and scratching and slapping and stuff.”
HuangKaiVun is sure in a hurry to fight people he meets on the net. Almost as dangerous as dating over the net, cept he is looking for violence… beats me.
HKV: yeah, sorry. I was kinda trolling… neways, looked like you were winding up with ralek cause earlier you said something about teaching him how a kung fu guy fights…
Did you ever answer me about being taught by you? Long lost thread..
Actually, I take a tai chi class separate from my ‘kung-fu’ class. The teacher and I were talking one day about the ‘kung-fu’ class, what I thought about it, how the class was sturctured, stuff like that. He was just curious about what other people were doing.
I said, “You know, now that I’ve been there for over a year, I’ve noticed that, metaphorically speaking, I’m a bit more willing to walk down those dark alleys. And I can’t ignore that this confidence is probably false. I am beginning to worry that my training may be doing me more harm than good.”
He said, “No, I wouldn’t worry. Confidence, false or true, will act as a deterrant to attacks. If you’re walking down the street with your head held high like you can take care of business, the ‘guy in the alley’ will wait for the next girl. Not that he’d be afraid you might beat him up. But he’ll probably figure you’ll be a big headache, struggling and scratching and slapping and stuff.” [/B]
I agree with that, to an extent. confidence doesn’t ALWAYS act as a deterrant, especially if there’s more than one assailant involved. If it doesn’t and the person getting attacked has not properly learned how to defend himself with his art, then he may be a goner.
Originally posted by LEGEND LOL…there has plenty of instances where two guys get into a fight and one guy takes the other down and pounds the hell out of a guy to death or KO( Hockey dad fights for ex ). BJJ is about taking someone out of his element and putting him into yours…go to www.streetbrawl.com and u can see numerous displays of real fights that have hit the ground! To say that u can remain standing to fight is laughable especially if u’re up against a stronger person.
Were those all girls fighting? Not a one of ‘em could squab’ to save their souls. Yeah some people fell to the ground, but they have never trained for balance and such. They were probably drunk f a g s and hos. I’d beat all of them at once for sure. You did notice that striking played a big role in their fights going to the ground. You kids just need to shut your traps and listen so you can learn, or don’t, whatever. It doesn’t make me ignorantly hopeful that one day I’ll know how to REALLY fight.
Do MMA sh i t. It just makes the real fighters that much more confident that no one will ever truly get it. Gots a leg up on suckers… What people like me know WILL hurt you and make you become a Tibetan monk if you decided to use your sport OR street, superficial stuff on me.
Ralek I’ve trained GJJ (under Caique and my friend Ryron) and Shorin. One is a fun sport that didn’t teach me anything I didn’t already know, and one made me able to hang with Purple belts and submit many, when I was a white. I know more about these reality things than you. You do what you like, but that doesn’t mean you could ever capture a clue…
BTW TKD? Get the f u c k outta here! Thai Boxing and sloppy San Shou— Give me friggin’ break! Hyper-hard, spastic kickboxing where you train 24-7 365? I could make up my own ring sport and train like that for 1 year and be virtually invincible. Most of us ain’t got to prove s h i t, we done lived it for real outside the ring or octagon.. speaking of–
I for one found that surfing was much harder to do than to talk about, or pretend to do. I wonder if a parallel can be drawn?
