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We have a saying in Chinese that goes like this:

“Even Cao Cao had soul mates and General Kwan inevitalbely had eternal foes”

It basically means that the number one all star vilan will have great fans of his own and number one all time hero will have tons of enemy ready to destroy him.

Lately, we have seen this happening in KFO. All the trolls are having supports and forming legions of fans. Sometimes, those who step up to the plate to trolling got stoned for being nosey and distracting. We must understand that trolls are the ones that has no understand and/or they have fear of others being more knowledgeable in a particular subject than them. These are individuals who have feable minds.

My word of advice to those who intentionally and/or unintentionally befriended trolls, while you might have gain one friend you might have lost many others. Ideally, we will all be friends but there are times that people, especially people who are willing to share knowledge, would distance themselves from trolls & company. The only option left to these forums would be mindless chit chats and not indepth exchange of knowledge.

It is a sad thing to see a sucessful forum to go down the drain because of a “few” individuals. Just thought I do my share of trolling to the trolls. :wink:

Mantis108

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An obligation swings both ways. You may be accountable as well. For all you talk about respect, perhaps what you’re really looking for is self-respect.

It isn’t easy asking uncomfortable questions. But if you don’t resolve certain matters then you’ll have to live in their shadow. In other words, that’s not very appealing.

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Mantis,
yeah agreed, it has been quite disappointing lately to see all the troll posts, especially the return of a particular individual who i thought had resolved his issues.

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Think outside the box and you’ll make the best of them. Enters gung-ho, the sign of group effort. From now on it’s action first, question later… This may get you out and about, but you’ll find it’s hard work trying to appease all parties.

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Sui-fuw,

Oh, please… be positive!
You’re such a fun and noble man!

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sui-fuw

I think what you do is not so much trolling as simply being a little bit coy:p You certainly have much to add and that is what seperates you from an average troll. The same could also be said for Ginger fist who trolled but also provided. Ralek on the other hand is just a plain simple troll as is Ego-Maximus. Both are just trying to cause a stir and using silly mind games to annoy target people. You ask tricky questions which have a habbit of upsetting people. Its not always particualy pleasent, but not always unwarented either. You like to play but forget you have sharp claws i think.
Just keep occasionaly dishing out the goods and we will forgive you sui-fuw.
Heck i did:D

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trolls

sui fuw isnt a troll! ralek is a troll, i like sui fuw as he makes me think most times.

we have all trolled at one time, especially me…remember fierce tiger? hahaha:D i miss him!!

bring him back i say…nah better not you all know where i am now hahahahaha! ****

:rolleyes:

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I take my leave upon good advice. My vanity and impetuousness goads me so easily to respond to attack, an in this I can no longer subject neither my Master nor my school to the nameless, faceless, cowardly defamations to be found on public forums such as these, if they be by one man or twenty. Thank you to the few individuals whom have made my practice richer. Good luck to those who remain in the shadows - for better or worse, I now become one of you.

My master’s sentiments echoed this evening: Even murderers have friends.

Regarding a “troll” who is not really a “troll”, anyone can pose questions and appear knowledgeable if they have a sense of deduction. The masters are those who give us the answers.

Final bitter sweep, here are a few quotes from “your” troll:

QUOTES FROM SUIFUW

but your still a gwai-lo pretending to feel the north and south of china.

keep guessing gwai-lo,i bet your teacher knows how to toy with you,you donkey

ok its up to you now,corn fed mule…sorry donkey

tw@t
yeah,so i was talking to md first and you stick your fat nose in,so answer buby question first or fu[k off wisk egg,

for a chinese person how easy we all toy with you gwai-los,

that wasn’t rude.this is though,the only animal you know is the frog and you have a history of running away[from ww2]and yet you guys moan about “air” space

and my imput is not to help you but to ridicule you

your assocaistion is nothing compared to gung fu.

my point is he only has a notion of lung ying and not the system

better than the post about your si-fu having no ging

con,con,con thats how you yanks work

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meltdawn

There are two types of people on this forum, those that have the guts to admit exactly who they are and where they come from and those that dont. Those of us who are open are put up to much more scruitiny and have to watch exactly what we say. Those who dont have none of these concerns and only need do as they so please.
You are one who is open and i have found many of your posts to be informative and interesting it would be a shame to lose you on this board. Most readers with any intelligence will see that you have a very respected background and your sifu is well respected, just becouse a faceless person doesnt agree it doesnt mean the rest of us will be swayed. I will take the word of an honest student over a faceless, nameless internet ‘master’ anyday of the week.
Why let the actions of one person dictate how you spend your time and knowledge? I dont think anyone buys any of the stuff that sui-fuw pokes at you as anything more than simply being a pain in the ass.
Your respected and so is your linage and sifu, dont let the rest of us miss out on your insite just becouse one faceless member makes fun of it.
Dont let Sui-fuw have such an effect your well above that level.

To sui-fuw, i honestly have to say you really do owe meltdown an appology… No one should have to sit though all that and she has done an ammazing job of remain civil.
Often you can be insitefull but this is really comming accross as simply bigotry. If you persist on attacking her background it will only make you look like your jelous or naieve. The attacks on Lung Ying are also very odd and ill founded all things considering.

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who’s who?

Mantis 108
In your saying are you cao cao or General Kwan or both?

Meltdawn -your weakness is your blind devotion to YOUR system.
If system and sifu is strong what the hell does it matter what anyone says?

If all were like some of you on this forum and don’t like the banter you can now P.M your bum chums and everything be cool.

If there is a problem with trolling why not take it to the moderator?

If you don’t like some posts then why take the bait?

sui Fuw is interesting and crude sometimes but I will not say he has no knowledge, to say this would make you sound superior and arrogant.
Like F.T says he makes you think. Which is a lot better than taking someonelses perspective.

In the end you only improve on your kung fu by practice not what you see on computer screens.

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Sui-fuw,

Thank you.

Meltdawn & FT

:slight_smile:

Cloud One,

Being 4 dimensional, I will take the 4th option. That’s non of the above. :smiley: (gee, you figure trolling is hard) :wink:

To the others,

I have said my peace, Amen.

Mantis108

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melty

Remember the attacks on my system and my sifu? dont let it get you down, prove yourself;)

are you going too mantis??:frowning:

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Mantis108

“My word of advice to those who intentionally and/or unintentionally befriended trolls, while you might have gain one friend you might have lost
many others.” - Buddy, you know out of all the people who post on here I only have admiration for a good hand full… and you happen to be one of those few people I admire. What I say next is said with the utmost(sp?) respect.

I come on here to ask questions. Regardless of who you are… if you say something and it sparks my interest, I’m going to ask a question. When have I ever been disrectful to someone that I’m asking a question too? You can’t hate me for asking questions or for seeing something in someones writing that others don’t.

Things have been said about YKM and our sijo by a number of people on here. I’m still friendly with everyone. I say, say what you want, I know the truth. My Kung Fu is strong and confident, so nothing phases me (please don’t take this as an attack on anyone).

It seems everytime Sui jumps on and asks a question, people quickly dismiss it as a troll post. All I can say is read betweeen the lines and maybe you’ll come to appreciate what he has to say. I know he’s taught me a lot about myself. Thanks bro!

Sorry if anyone thinks I’ve been disrespectful towards them. If you want to consider yourself my friend…Great! If not, then that’s cool… but I hold no ill intent torwards anyone on here.

Sifu - I’ll be giving you a call. The new material is off the hook. I wanna make sure I’m on the right track. Also, I wanna know what you think about some of my “new” found discoveries. I’ll give ya call tonight. I don’t work tomorrow.

Buby

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bubby

no probs my G!

CALL MY NIGHT TIME OR YOURS?:smiley:

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Buby, my friend

First and foremost, I have never considered you a troll or in the company of trolls. You have always been courteous and sincere. I believe you search for answers with a pure heart. To share knowledge with you is a pleasure. Secondly, we might have a rough start with some YKM folks here, but I’ve never personally hold any grudge against anyone. After all things that happen in the pass generations happened in the past. Let by gones be by gones. I believe FT made his amend and has since then been almost model reformed member. Hey, FT two thumbs up :smiley:

Perhaps when trolling is done tastefully, it could be an art. I am sure there are people who appreciate trolling and I can understand that. To be honest, who am I to judge? But we must also understand how some would feel about unwanted trolling. I would also like to make it clear that my post didn’t mean to make people choose sides. It is rather a time out for some people before jumping on the same boat with the trolls. Times has changed. It used to be no gray area where a martial artist stands. Justice today is relative but is sincerity or honesty relative also? That, my friend(s), is for you all to decided. All I am saying is that it is time for reflection. Weight your action before it became the point of no return. That my friend(s) is a golden rule of “Wulin” (martial forest). One rule that all martial artists would always observe regardless.

Mantis108

PS. Buby, my friend, I really appreciate your being candid with me. Thank you.

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Mantis108

Thank you!:slight_smile:

Buby

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All

For what it’s worth, I also agree that Sui does have very good insight, though sometimes we may not want to hear what he/she (think about it for a moment) has to say. Who’s fault is that…ours maybe??

Anyway, my 2 cents. I know, some could care less.

Buby! :smiley:
Did ya get my new email address? How’s it going bro!

FT- :slight_smile:
Did you get my email? I need some info from you, check your email.

Peace.
Charles

The cup is ALWAYS half full…:smiley:

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sui fuw

i got tears in my eyes man, the battle of battles we had! i have to admit its all a game at the end, you are correct on that!

i dont have apples in my garden only poison ivy!

why do we come on to here at the foeroom/forum? half the sh!t we say isnt of intrest just opinions and then we usually argue that no my style does it better or no you lineage is older, you dont know but i do! come on we all gotta lighten up here.

by far your best post gwalo!:smiley:

feldor,
just sent you the info thanks buddy!!!:smiley: :slight_smile: :smiley:

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Sui-fuw,

No one’s committing to anything, but it’s obvious how things will play out.

Our sentimental Sui-fuw…
Is this called China blue or kung fu mystery?

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Hey Sui Fuw

Quit whining.

Maybe if you spent more time training instead of gardening apples your Kung Fu wouldn’t be so weak Hakka boy. :wink: