I’m pretty sure I heard that the history of Savate (French Foot / kickboxing) skills came from old shipping sailors. This dude, I forgot the dudes name?.. Said that the French learned at least some of their kicks from Chinese / Asian sailors aboard their vessels long ago.
Wait it was “Salem Asslis” right ???
If true…that means at least someone or somebody was sparring on ships way back. Enough for them to take interest in it.
[QUOTE=Subitai;1306364]I’m pretty sure I heard that the history of Savate (French Foot / kickboxing) skills came from old shipping sailors. This dude, I forgot the dudes name?.. Said that the French learned at least some of their kicks from Chinese / Asian sailors aboard their vessels long ago.
Wait it was “Salem Asslis” right ???
If true…that means at least someone or somebody was sparring on ships way back. Enough for them to take interest in it.[/QUOTE]
I wonder if Boxing was developed from the Northmen`s sword and axe and French Shoe fighting was influenced by the warmer Mediterranean
climate like Romans fought in long t-shirts and breastplate armor the Viking would be using more upper body technique wearing 40 pounds of wet furs fighting on snow hills.
Pretty Good Article ~ From Forms to Fighting
I know Sifu Wong Kiew Kit may not have the best rep in the MA world - but this is one of the better summaries on this question/issue I’ve seen (not that it is directly from Sifu Wong)
https://www.shaolin-wahnam.ch/index.php/en/2015-12-28-16-08-45/fighting-with-kung-fu
[QUOTE=David Jamieson;1306190]well, except that you say “most schools” do this. That is not true so much in my experience and most certainly is not the meat and potatoes of it these days where we are finally at the put up or shut up stage of things.
The first thing people do coming in my door is glove up and lets see what you got.
The reason for this is to get understanding immediately of what needs work. (Hint, often people are leg weak, oddly)
Anyway, one or two three minute rounds and it’s not hard to assess where a person really needs to work in their martial skills.
I find that this is an effective means to assess and understand where a person is at and how to point them in the right direction to attaining the skills they would like to attain.
If someone wants fully full on wushu for performance and grading, I am not their guy and I will make it clear. I’m a traditional Kung Fu guy that takes only private adult students willing to work on themselves.
Glove em up first thing and you learn a lot. That is for sure. There is no room for arrogance when that is happening. Learn learn learn and keep learning.[/QUOTE]
Yes ok! How free sparring in kung fu look like? How can you apply the stance Gon bu, Putu etc. etc,on free sparring match? What are the difference beetween kung fu, and kickboxing? Is there some video who you can show me?