Forms again

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[QUOTE=wetwonder;926142]
It seems that the folks that question forms put most all their focus into fighting as a goal. In contrast, the folks that enjoy or don’t have a problem with forms are mostly focused on the “art” itself.[/QUOTE]

i sorry to tell u but the “art” of kung fu is the art of smash another man in face it is art of cruelty
your spiritual masters were smuggling salt robbing people and finishing missionaries and nuns from the demon sect
i think thats honorable and carries spirit of hap but not really spiritual

[QUOTE=bawang;926347]meow

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i sorry to tell u but the “art” of kung fu is the art of smash another man in face it is art of cruelty
your spiritual masters were smuggling salt robbing people and finishing missionaries and nuns from the demon sect
i think thats honorable and carries spirit of hap but not really spiritual[/QUOTE]

I don’t think so. I think “bad” people do all that stuff. Regular folk, like myself and most people on this forum, learn kung fu in order to not have to fight, and to feel good about not fighting. Because most people do not want to hurt others. At least regular folks don’t.

I suffer from occasional irregularity.

[QUOTE=TenTigers;926355]I suffer from occasional irregularity.[/QUOTE]

lol that made me bust up laughing :smiley:

[QUOTE=wetwonder;926354]I don’t think so. I think “bad” people do all that stuff. Regular folk, like myself and most people on this forum, learn kung fu in order to not have to fight, and to feel good about not fighting. Because most people do not want to hurt others. At least regular folks don’t.[/QUOTE]

i very apoloies, some times i forget im talking with white people
forget everything i said good luck in your clas dear sir i hope you gain a lot of happy confidence :):):slight_smile: super happy face

[QUOTE=TenTigers;926355]I suffer from occasional irregularity.[/QUOTE]

There’s a difference between contributing and being disrespectful to other people. When a student is disrespectful at our school, Sifu will not teach him/her for a period of time. People in forums, however, answer only to themselves.

[QUOTE=TenTigers;926355]I suffer from occasional irregularity.[/QUOTE]

try doing gung ge fuk fu on the toilet while focus qi on your anus you shoot your poo like a torpedo

[QUOTE=wetwonder;926354]I don’t think so. I think “bad” people do all that stuff. Regular folk, like myself and most people on this forum, learn kung fu in order to not have to fight, and to feel good about not fighting. Because most people do not want to hurt others. At least regular folks don’t.[/QUOTE]

if you dont want to hurt others, dont fight
if you dont want to fight, no need to learn kung fu, because you will never be able to defend yourself

[QUOTE=wetwonder;926354]I don’t think so. I think “bad” people do all that stuff.

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When a student is disrespectful at our school, Sifu will not teach him/her for a period of time. [/QUOTE]

dear lord , another fantasy land wacko :rolleyes:

[QUOTE=bawang;926363]if you dont want to hurt others, dont fight
if you dont want to fight, no need to learn kung fu, because you will never be able to defend yourself[/QUOTE]

Yes, I see where you stand on this.

[QUOTE=wetwonder;926368]Yes, I see where you stand on this.[/QUOTE]
if you can finish a man just by reaching out your hand, but you dont want to, that is enlightenment
if you cant fight but say its because you dont want to, that jsut make you a big hairy smelly pusy

[QUOTE=wetwonder;926368]Regular folk, like myself and most people on this forum, learn kung fu in order to not have to fight, and to feel good about not fighting. .[/QUOTE]
first, regular folks like you are the ones being milked for money and taught garbage that if you try to use one day, will make you die

second, regular folks like you are the ones that see someone getting beaten on the ground and stand around and watch, even after 10 years you will never have spirit of the hap the wandering hero

third, regular folks like you are the ones that look down on the ground and hand over robbers your monehs

[QUOTE=TenTigers;926355]I suffer from occasional irregularity.[/QUOTE]
you must be very jealous of me my bowel movment is very good, thanks to testicle five outstanding shouting golden bell qigong i focus qi to the anus meridian and poo shoot like torpedo

[QUOTE=bawang;926373]if you can finish a man just by reaching out your hand, but you dont want to, that is enlightenment
if you cant fight but say its because you dont want to, that jsut make you a big hairy smelly pusy

first, regular folks like you are the ones being milked for money and taught garbage that if you try to use one day, will make you die

second, regular folks like you are the ones that see someone getting beaten on the ground and stand around and watch, even after 10 years you will never have spirit of the hap the wandering hero

third, regular folks like you are the ones that look down on the ground and hand over robbers your monehs

you must be very jealous of me my bowel movment is very good, thanks to testicle five outstanding shouting golden bell qigong i focus qi to the anus meridian and poo shoot like torpedo[/QUOTE]

Yes, I see.

[QUOTE=wetwonder;926142] don’t have a problem with forms are mostly focused on the “art” itself.[/QUOTE]
A: You need to lean to reach.
B: Reach what?
A: Your opponent.
B: What opponent? :confused:
A: :frowning:

When you remove “opponent” from your picture, you can do anything you want and there will be no right or wrong.

[QUOTE=YouKnowWho;926377]A: You need to lean to reach.
B: Reach what?
A: Your opponent.
B: What opponent? :confused:
A: :frowning:

When you remove “opponent” from your picture, you can do anything you want and there will be no right or wrong.[/QUOTE]

To add to what John said, remember there is only one constant in any fight you will ever have:
YOU.

for most people;

  1. we start with stances.

  2. we learn and practice single move over and over.

  3. we learn and practice several moves in a combo or a posture.

personally, I hate long forms. b/c I can not remember them all the time.

A. sparring,

  1. arranged. we practice to use the single and combo moves in an arranged or rehearsed sparring. or cooperative partners. to be familiar with the conditions that the move work or does not work

  2. free sparring, real time, resistant partner.

B. arts

  1. timing and space.

  2. tactics and strategy to use a single move or combo

if we may use the move or combo well in real time and with resistant partner

we know that we carry the skill of the move and know the “art” part of the move.

in short.

remembering the sequence of long forms and doing them in a certain manner

may not have anything to do with using them in a fight real time and with random counters from the opponent.

that was what YKW meant.

:smiley:

some functions of long or short forms practice

  1. we practice to have the proper structure or frame. Xing Jia.

  2. we practice to have balanced distribution of power. Jin Jia

in this, we only learn how to position and release balanced power in a small scale.

never full scale, either stomping feet or punching and kicking.

we have to practice more to full power release with punching bags, and pads, poles, etc. hitting sand or flour bag etc da zhuang.

  1. we practice to have the spirits/shen. gong jia.

  2. breathing exercise, we practice to move slowly and evenly and also to inhale and exhale slowly and evenly. breathing coupled with moves of opening and closing in our postures.


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make a long story short

to know the art of your moves

is to use them in a fight skillfully both in timing and space/position.

also know when and where we may or may not use a certain move etc

how it will or will not work


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[QUOTE=wetwonder;926376]Yes, I see.[/QUOTE]

Now you see the type of stuff that I have to deal with in this so called Kung Fu forum. Well lets just take it with a pinch of salt shall we.:slight_smile:

[QUOTE=lkfmdc;926365].

dear lord , another fantasy land wacko :rolleyes:[/QUOTE]

What do you find so wrong with a sifu (a REAL one;)) promoting respectfulness amongst his students?

[QUOTE=Hardwork108;926469]Now you see the type of stuff that I have to deal with in this so called Kung Fu forum. Well lets just take it with a pinch of salt shall we.:)[/QUOTE]

I’m OK with their opinions. I prefer the opinions being respectful, but everyone is different.