This is John’ s very interesting clip on force vector reflection handling. Perhaps John could educate us on how he did it. Thanks John !
Which John?
i enjoyed the video clip thanks guys!
Dim gaai gwong dung wah mah? Hendrik, neih ji do ni do hou do yahn m’shik teng gwong dung wah ah.
Hey Hendrik,
Redirecting forces with minimal movements. If I move too much, the opponent can sense it and adapt, making my techniques useless.
(In theory) If I can change fast and without his detection, I should be able to do things to the opponent, and by the time he senses it is too late for him to defent himself.
I think a lot of the Internal stuff should be focusing on being invisible and undetectable by the opponent, and not just on how to generate maximum power. Part of the reason why Tai Chi has to be light is not so much to do with yielding (I don’t believe in physically yielding, I’ll just get smacked :p) but it got to do with being undetectable.
Of course, transferring the methods to real fighting is a completely different ball game. And that’s why many internal artists who could do all these wonderful things during practice under controlled environment fails to be good fighters.
As I always say, the Tai Chi (IYTC) teaches me the science behind what to do, and the Kulo (KL22) teaches me how to apply it.
Hope it helps.
Cheers,
John
[QUOTE=Phil Redmond;1152040]Dim gaai gwong dung wah mah? Hendrik, neih ji do ni do hou do yahn m’shik teng gwong dung wah ah.[/QUOTE]
Haha Phil, gor pin hou gou ga la 
[QUOTE=imperialtaichi;1152044]Haha Phil, gor pin hou gou ga la ;)[/QUOTE]
M’goi, m’goi. Sihk teng daahn hai sikh gong siu siu ah . .
[QUOTE=imperialtaichi;1152042]I think a lot of the Internal stuff should be focusing on being invisible and undetectable by the opponent, and not just on how to generate maximum power. Part of the reason why Tai Chi has to be light is not so much to do with yielding (I don’t believe in physically yielding, I’ll just get smacked :p) but it got to do with being undetectable.[/QUOTE]
Oh, BTW, that’s why a lot of these Internal stuff looked weird and unbelievable; because the whole idea is to deceive the receiver and sometimes the audience. But believe me, it is scientifically sound and no Chinese magic involved. 
[QUOTE=imperialtaichi;1152049]Oh, BTW, that’s why a lot of these Internal stuff looked weird and unbelievable; because the whole idea is to deceive the receiver and sometimes the audience. But believe me, it is scientifically sound and no Chinese magic involved. [/QUOTE]
I know. I was just having fun…lol
:47 haih m’haih ging lek ma???
Lots of fun here .
Thanks guys!
John,
May be it is time to introduce the concept of Jin loo or force vector path . Path opening …
General public always mistaken these stuffs with qigong Because the Jin handling also use visualization.
very good post!!!
[QUOTE=imperialtaichi;1152042]Hey Hendrik,
Redirecting forces with minimal movements. If I move too much, the opponent can sense it and adapt, making my techniques useless.
(In theory) If I can change fast and without his detection, I should be able to do things to the opponent, and by the time he senses it is too late for him to defent himself.
I think a lot of the Internal stuff should be focusing on being invisible and undetectable by the opponent, and not just on how to generate maximum power. Part of the reason why Tai Chi has to be light is not so much to do with yielding (I don’t believe in physically yielding, I’ll just get smacked :p) but it got to do with being undetectable.
Of course, transferring the methods to real fighting is a completely different ball game. And that’s why many internal artists who could do all these wonderful things during practice under controlled environment fails to be good fighters.
As I always say, the Tai Chi (IYTC) teaches me the science behind what to do, and the Kulo (KL22) teaches me how to apply it.
Hope it helps.
Cheers,
John[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Phil Redmond;1152078]:47 haih m’haih ging lek ma???[/QUOTE]
Haha Phil, I’m starting to get lost in translations…
To be honest, the principle is not that much different this bird toy…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=POsnqP_Ir70
The mind controls where the paths (or vectors) go; but the most difficult part is the body must be under total control of the mind, then the body supports whatever structure the mind conceives.
The techniques can also be executed very fast because it does not require the body move a lot. But the mind must change rapidly. Also, it takes longer for the opponent to work out what’s going on, which gives you the advantage of speed (by making the opponent slower).
That’s one of the reason why Tai Chi is practiced slowly; you want to train to change a lot of force vectors with the mind while the body moves very little. Practicing Tai Chi is actually a lot of hard work!
[QUOTE=imperialtaichi;1152104]Haha Phil, I’m starting to get lost in translations…[/QUOTE]
That’s the Yale Romanization I learned on college. Anyway, at :47 in the clip it looks like you were using Ging lik/faat ging.
[QUOTE=imperialtaichi;1152105]To be honest, the principle is not that much different this bird toy…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=POsnqP_Ir70
The mind controls where the paths (or vectors) go; but the most difficult part is the body must be under total control of the mind, then the body supports whatever structure the mind conceives.
The techniques can also be executed very fast because it does not require the body move a lot. But the mind must change rapidly. Also, it takes longer for the opponent to work out what’s going on, which gives you the advantage of speed (by making the opponent slower).
That’s one of the reason why Tai Chi is practiced slowly; you want to train to change a lot of force vectors with the mind while the body moves very little. Practicing Tai Chi is actually a lot of hard work![/QUOTE]
With proper instruction on the 5 as the kuen kuit says , the yik kam slt long set practice is also doing it that way.
As slt means the training of small details.
[QUOTE=Hendrik;1152116]With proper instruction on the 5 as the kuen kuit says , the yik kam slt long set practice is also doing it that way.
As slt means the training of small details.[/QUOTE]
One day post a video of your SLT?
[QUOTE=imperialtaichi;1152105]To be honest, the principle is not that much different this bird toy…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=POsnqP_Ir70
The mind controls where the paths (or vectors) go; but the most difficult part is the body must be under total control of the mind, then the body supports whatever structure the mind conceives.
The techniques can also be executed very fast because it does not require the body move a lot. But the mind must change rapidly. Also, it takes longer for the opponent to work out what’s going on, which gives you the advantage of speed (by making the opponent slower).
That’s one of the reason why Tai Chi is practiced slowly; you want to train to change a lot of force vectors with the mind while the body moves very little. Practicing Tai Chi is actually a lot of hard work![/QUOTE]
Yes, good account of steps used and that is one of the reasons why I would call what you described as internal application, it’s not dependent on muscle impulses to apply.
now this is a peaceful thread wow!
Oh, btw, when practicing SLT, the shoulder on the non-working side supports the generation of power on the techniques being executed on the working side. So while one side trains yin, the other side trains yang and vice versa.
So the non-working side is actually doing a lot of work.