For the people in JKD cross training with something else...

one more thing. i agree that some techniques and tactics are better served by having a stronger, more solid base. stillness, in some sense.

but my feeling is still that it’s easier to <i>drop</i> down into a solid base from an easy bounce than it is to <i>rise</i> out of a solid base to move around. you’ve got gravity working on your side that way. less telegraphing.

stuart b.

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A martial art originated by a couple of stoned teenagers trying to impress a girl… I can really see the potential! :smiley:

well, it’s an odd start. but i’m not going to discount it.

stuart b.

LOL, i guess i deserved that…

but in actually, me n my friend have fought like that before, and infront of other people, its jes that day stands out (it was too funny :smiley: ) We’ve fought infront of several people, everyone laughed very hard…and a few people said their faces were hurting(on different occasions) but yea, dat’d be kinda funny to say that in an interview…or better yet, have a scroll, telling the story of how it was formed, LOL…thanx for the replies everyone, anyone got more opinions?

Bouncing

When I was boxing, I learned to bounce to merely keep on my toes. You are quicker and more agile when on your toes. If you look at sprinters or the fastest, most agile animals out there, then you’ll notice they all run on their toes. It’s easier to sink down to put your legs into a punch, then it is to escape from a flurry when being completely static and flat-footed. You still lose some power when on your toes, but you can still deliver more than enough to put people out of commission. Plus sticking and moving is an important concept in boxing. The second you stand still is the second you get hit.

I realize this is just the boxers way, and other methods will indeed work. My advice to you is to fully emerse yourself in any style you are going to x-train in. Use all the methods; bouncing and all. Only after you have made it your own will you see it’s value or lack thereof. Never stop learning.

i can’t really offer any better advice than that.

well said, ford.

stuart b.

Does anybody here cross train JKD with Tai Chi Chuan?

yea, dat sounds good, i jes remembered a saying, that if i had heard before hand, i probably wouldn’t have posted this, however i DID learn, definantly, im glad i did post it, but the sayin is…

“in order to fill your cup, you must first empty it”…which is also said as “In order to be taught, u must un-learn everything you know”…makes perfect sense to me now

Cross Training

In order to truly understand Jeet Kune Do, you must have a strong foundation in some art form. This is stated by Bruce Lee, however, if you find an instructor in Jeet Kune Do who can show you your path and give the right direction, then you may learn from the beginning. It is imperative that you learn along the way the Jeet Kune Do concepts and philophies to your self-expression.

bouncing

my oppinion is that bouncing is extremely importartant, as poeple here have said they make the opponent less aware of your movements and such, i personally doesnt bounce around so much due to the fact that im a bit overweigh ;), but, by just keeping my heels of the floor and shifting weight between my legs i stay fast and agile, so when i meet someone in a competition for example they dont see me as a fast moving opponent, but after a few surprising kicks to the head they learn :wink:
and when im pushed back so i have to plant my heels i usually try to give a fast pushing kick to their thighs or stomach that will give me time to reposition.
though if you are a light person i imagine “stance fighting” could be usefull in some occasions, but from my experience i’d say its always best to keep bouncing just to have alert legs

/björn

“bouncing for the sake of bouncing”

How do you know they are bouncing for the “sake” of bouncing? Have you fought them? Have you stepped in the ring with them? Making a statement like that is extremely big, and is usually only determined by someone with lots of experience in that art and others. How could you know for sure if you have no formal training in any martial art?

I’m not trying to be mean or anything…but martial arts and fighting are pretty serious so you NEED some kind of foundation before you can “create your own system”
Hell Bruce had a foundation before he moved from it. I practice my own “way” of fighting too, but I only do that from years of grappling experience, JKD experience, etc.

Simply creating moves with your friend (who also has no martial arts experience) is not a martial art. I’m not trying to knock what you’re doing. Don’t get me wrong. I think people should express themselves in MA…but you can’t make up something when you have no formal experience and call it legit. That’s just my opinion.
Train, research, study what you want to study, and put it into practice, but GET FORMAL training of some kind. Your posts, however passionate about MA, leave me thinking you don’t have the experience to be “creating” anything.
Please don’t take offense. All that means is that foundation is important.

As far as the getting high stuff…well that’s a whole other topic :rolleyes: It’s good that you at least aren’t into it anymore.

Ryu