I’m not one to report people. Nor am I a big practitioner of many types of ip. However, I have found some interest in the topic from some recent posts by various constructive members, and, given that this is a kung fu forum, it seems like we should be able to discuss it without all of us having to answer for any one practitioner’s views on it.
That said, it has been some time since we could discuss the topic without someone against it trolling to attract the more extreme people, and derailing the topic.
There are currently five or so threads on the topic. One already saw the reasonable members opting out and the thread starter closing the thread due to faxiawhatever. Who is now working on another one.
I am not placing demands, I am simply stating that this topic on the whole has been trolled to death in the last year, such that most reasonable members who know anything useful are forced to opt out of the thread, and this isn’t good for the forum.
I will not be able to be on most of this week. I just want you let you know about what’s going on. If the threads stay civil and don’t get derailed from one or two member’s agendas, great. But I really would love to check in when my work schedule lays off and be able to read more cool stuff about this practice in kung fu, and it’s been a loooooong time since that was even an option on an ip thread.
I do not have a problem with them starting new topics off of tangents that come up in the threads at hand, no big deal. I also think its great that faxiawhatever was able to raise so much interest in ip on the forum.
With this renewed interest, I think it would be good if some threads were driven by those who actually practice it.
[QUOTE=lkfmdc;1103972]Just to clarify, but you find the idiot talking about people’s wives ok because he’s a so called “traditional kung fu person”? [/QUOTE]
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With this renewed interest, I think it would be good if some threads were driven by those who actually practice it.[/QUOTE]
Really, you think only threads can be started about something if the person practices that something?
How about if that person actually practices what is probably a much more effective method than what the “traditional” practitioners practice of that method that is being brought up? Is he then allowed to bring it up, or does he have to only do it the way the “traditional” people say it is supposed to be done?
Just to clarify, what I said above, plus there appears to be a traditionalist arsehole troll who lkfmdc can fill you in on, and Water-Quan is needy like a kitten taken off of mother’s milk too soon.
Additionally, I think BJJ forgot to cite newsmax twice in a recent post.
Also, I have on good authority that Lucas is buying ninja gear from a competitor of the superior purveyor of products, martial arts mart.
[QUOTE=faxiapreta;1103975]Really, you think only threads can be started about something if the person practices that something?
How about if that person actually practices what is probably a much more effective method than what the “traditional” practitioners practice of that method that is being brought up? Is he then allowed to bring it up, or does he have to only do it the way the “traditional” people say it is supposed to be done?[/QUOTE]
If someone wants to discuss Chinese iron body, on a kung fu forum, and you can start threads about other methods, why don’t you?
[QUOTE=KC Elbows;1103968]That said, it has been some time since we could discuss the topic without someone against it trolling to attract the more extreme people, and derailing the topic.[/QUOTE]
BTW, didn’t you recently admit to posting in a trolling manner?
Also, are there rules somewhere that explain what specific things are considered derailing a topic that would be bannable offenses?
[QUOTE=KC Elbows;1103977]If someone wants to discuss Chinese iron body, on a kung fu forum, and you can start threads about other methods, why don’t you?[/QUOTE]
Last time I checked, responding to posters responding to other posters or the the topic is part of how forums work.
Like I said, if there are specific guidelines on what is “unacceptable derailment” please point those of us whom you think are guilty of this to those guidelines.
To clarify, the mods and Gene seem to be fairly moderate on bans. But, this is a kung fu foum, so its pretty unlikely that they’re gonna be able to justify keeping people around who do not allow discussion of kung fu to be civil. I could be wrong, but it doesn’t seem like I’ve been wrong on who is gonna get banned lately.
How about we TCMA lovers all unit together (hope WC guys can join in too). If anyone shows any dis-respect to TCMA, we will all be on that guy’s ass, and show that person what a real trolling suppose to look like.
[QUOTE=lkfmdc;1103994]Plenty of so called TCMA people on this board fit this description. Just so it rains on both sides of the ball, can we ban them also[/QUOTE]
Exactly… and, gasp, maybe even from the original complainer about the same thing he is complaining about.
Its not that you are a jerk, its also that you are not smart. I hope you go away. I hope David Ross also goes away. In this way we can have real discussions.
Like I said, if there are specific guidelines on what is “unacceptable derailment” please point those of us whom you think are guilty of this to those guidelines.
when you signed up for the forum you accepted the rule statement about “civil” discussion.
Personally, if sumone starts to derail a thread i find it pretty easy tomignore what they post; sure it can b inconvenient, but it’s a public forum: the price u pay for a diverse base of opinion is to hav to tolerate things like that;
What I don’t get is why sumone who doesn’t practice or believe in IP wud come onto a TCMA forum to belabor the point; im not saying they r wrong, I just don’t get the motivation; it’s not like they practice IP and hav sum issues w it and so r arguing about how to advance IP training - they just dismiss it; again, mayb they make a good case, but why? What possible benefit cud they derive?
Similarly, those who come on here to “defend”'tradition and route the sell outs: they need to get their heads out of the 13th c and realize that things evolve in ways they may not like,'but that doesn’t mean it’s a negative thing - but they r just too wrapped up in their ba gua diagrams to notice…
