Roger, We Have To Tread Carefully Here!!!
Roger Wrote>
Where did Robert Chu’s Koo Lo WCK come from???
I’m sure “someone” will call “FOUL” on this, and I look for this thread to disapear without any answers to yours and my question:confused:
I think that’s a question we need to ask “Mulder”
Sheldon
Savi wrote:
Nothing can be proven over the internet. We can show you how things are done, have been done, and still you will say “It proves nothing!” We can show you our family tree, and you will say “Your ‘fluff’ is mere imaginary ‘research’ to which you ‘historians’ are forcing us to believe!” Is this not what has been going on? S
What I’m saying is that oral tradition is one thing and genuine research is another, and we should keep the distinction clear. I can put up a diagram of the Yip Man oral history (he actually wrote it!) and extend it back to Ng Mui. That doesn’t prove, however, that it is historically accurate. Nor do I claim it is. TN
You ask someone of the impossible. The only thing that can occur on the internet is the passing of information. That’s IT! Nothing can be proven over the internet other than the internet, and things of its nature work. Perhaps I am ill-informed and you can help me understand how to prove something over the internet? You want us to prove our roots? Would you like birth certificates? Blood samples? Photos prove nothing with respect to what you are asking. We’ve displayed our family tree online without restriction to the public. That’s all we can do. S
I know that’s all you can do; if there was other evidence I’m certain it would have been displayed. TN
Keep in mind a system based on Chan Philosophy is based on reality, not legends. S
LOL! So because you claim to have a system based on Chan Philosophy you think that proves your lineage is historically accurate? TN
The only thing that seperates us from the answers we require is time, and that will pass. Do not let disbelief and ill feelings feed your aprehension about the HFY family. We only share what we know, even if only on an individual basis. Please continue to look for future articles by the VTM staff. S
Skepticism is IMHO a healthy state of mind. And I have no ill feelings toward anyone. TN
Terence
Savi- perhaps you misread my post- see the sequence below-
My posts had two parts- the first written or intended in the same spirit as yours.(No offense intended))
The second part refers to Jim Roselandos comment.
Of course, its obvious that I am not intrigued by HFY- thats not an insult- thats an opinion. You are not singled out.
–Skepticism is IMHO a healthy state of mind.-- TN
**Your own mischief will consume you.
–And I have no ill feelings toward anyone.-- TN
**Yack…
ROFLOL - the only thing missing on this merry-go-round is a brass ring. May as well keep it light, folks.
Regards,
Re: Roger, We Have To Tread Carefully Here!!!
Sheldon/Roger,
Robert Chu lists Kwan Jong-Yuen as his instructor in that system as well as his instructor in Yuen Kay Shan Wing Chun.
Further details on this are at:
http://www.chusaulei.com/martial/articles/articles_gulao.html
Here is another reference to Robert and his teacher in spanish.
Look for the section on Gu Lao.
http://chinwan.com.ar/wing_china.htm
What else do you need to know that a google search could not provide?
Originally posted by Geezer
[B]Roger Wrote>
I’m sure “someone” will call “FOUL” on this, and I look for this thread to disapear without any answers to yours and my question:confused:
I think that’s a question we need to ask “Mulder”
Sheldon [/B]
FWIW - I had the good fortune to meet Kwan sifu in NYC in the mid 1990s. He was a gentleman, and an excellent Siu Lap chef. I believe he’s retired now. I also was lucky enough to see his Gulao/Koolo, which he learned from Tam Yeung (who at that time was quite old but still alive in China) in 40 points, and his Yuen Kay-San WCK, which descended from my sibak, Ngok Jin-Fen and Pang Chao (the latter being especially well known if China for his fighting success, and his work as a mechanic leading him to develop some dummies I bet Ho Luen would enjoy). It’s sad to see him become fodder for the trolls.
BTW - Planet WC is correct that this should be easily accessible information for anyone not brainwashed into culthood and in possession of at least a third grade reading level.
AFAIK - Anyone wanting to find out about a doctor from Xiguan, Guangzhou, with high level WCK skill could easily check the following: the local medical association, the local restaurants, the local WCK practitioners. They would find out, literally, in no time flat.
RR
Due to the disintegrating nature of this thread, i’m closing it before it degenerates any more than it already has.