[QUOTE=hskwarrior;834680]Diego, forget forms…take it from me, take it from the other fighters…
its what’s in the forms, or even ten seeds is what you need.
Diego, do you really think the Revolutionary fighters of the 1800’s had time to perfect forms when in about a decade to two decades over 20-30 million southern chinese were killed due to things like the Tai Ping Rebellion?
The reason why there are so little forms within Hung Sing as compared to Chan Family, is Hung Sing People care MORE about how you use it, then how its performed. I don’t care what anyone has to say, I’m not that far off from Lau Bun (Jew Leong, Sifu, me)…and what i was told about Lau Bun he didn’t care about forms neither.
See, Professor Lau Bun survived the Tong Wars out here in the bay area during his time which were extremely bloody. his students were apart of this as well. And seeing how they did it back then as opposed to how it looks today, back then it was raw brute force with killing power…today we all look like folk dancers…trying to do our sets as pretty as can be.
As EJ said, for that branch, those forms are important for them.
for Lineages such as Yuen Hai, Lui Chun, and Lee Yan…Jeong Yim’s most senior disciples, there were only 3 main forms. Ping Kuen, Kau Da, and Cheung Kuen. These forms have very good fighting material in it.
In Hung Sing (USA) the forms one should keep are…
(foundational forms)
Che Kuen
Cheung Kuen…these two forms also cover speed and strength on a more practical level.
Two of our fighting forms are…
Sup Ji Kau Da
Um Ying…both cover speed & strength…both contain very good fighting elements.
Anyways, the same fighting elements are found in the small number of forms from our lineage that are found in the LARGE number of chan family forms.
truthfully, from a fighters point of view, i’d rather have a few forms that cover the whole system, than have the numbers going into the triple digits.[/QUOTE]
I haven’t seen it all in CLF but I understand what you are saying from what I have seen…if you mingled up all of the muay thai shadowboxing technique you would get like two sets…
Kaido only had ten to twelve short forms like three of them equal the time consumed in David Ross’s Gam Gong set which takes like four minutes to perform. I have seen some lama tibet white crane forms…i don’t think i’ve seen any actualhop gar forms online,but from everything i’ve seen…all the differant long sets,it’s all there in kaido’s kajukenbo line drills which is about 40-60 of them…all the tactics in kaidos kaju drills are in his short forms as well, so it’s like kaido has two systems with two systems in it:)…wheras some schools have basic sets like twenty of them, intermediate with twenty of them and so on…kaido is just fight fight…within two weeks you had the gloves on and were sparring kajukenbo style…no time for forms there…the first to the last form is all killing intent…no basics…the first form is easier than the fourth which has sweep kicks and continuos tornadoes, but the first form is straight kajukenbo streetfighting essentials, so even tho the footwork is easier than the fourth set, the **** is still hard…no basic to advanced in kaido’s style…it’s just fighting technique and more of it as you get tighter:)
what everyone trien to do in the new millenium with streamlining their systems to be simpler like muay thai…kaido did it in the 70’s and emperado started doing it in the 50’s…i’mlucky to have traditional form from the 70’s mindframe, and i’m lucky to have proper kung fu kickboxing drills equaling a system of traditional technique but more inline with the line drillmentality of the current popular martial artists mentality…i look at all these other kung fu schools and it’s just like the hell i thought yall was lineaged to a master…where the fighting…kaido’s student became a dog brother with his kajukenbo…i see kung fu guys no where…i look at the CLF clans though and i see why they get their props:)
too bad communists ****ed it up on the mainland and only the american street dudes kept the martial aspect of the gung fu alive…
