End the Debate... What makes a Style?

the last tourney i went to years ago one of our guys was disqualified for kicking the other guy in the stomach with a back kick over and over…the guy couldnt figure it out i guess…so we got disqualified even though he sucked at fighting and couldnt even defend the same technique over and over…iots a freaking turn back kick for christs sake!

i was done with that **** right there.

[QUOTE=bawang;1031843]where u learned kung fu in china mang>?[/QUOTE]

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I learned the better kung fu from a group of huizu friends.

I think people in general are becoming pu$$y’s. I mean take any sport today at an early age of youth. They have cut a lot of the competitive nature out. They don’t call it lossing anymore. Everyone wins! ??? They all go to the ice cream shop afterwards… blahh… What happens when there is no more winners. the answer, the world becomes less competitive, and then people stop caring about it all together and then they finally quit.

they try to make everyone safe to the point of ridiculousness. There is no more contact. Wrestling they have taken the weight divisions and not allowing the cut of weight. Football if you have the slightest injury I mean slightest they pull you for the whole game.

It’s gradually happened over time and to all sports in schools.

makes the sexual harassment panda sad…:frowning:

[QUOTE=Lucas;1031849]the last tourney i went to years ago one of our guys was disqualified for kicking the other guy in the stomach with a back kick over and over…the guy couldnt figure it out i guess…so we got disqualified even though he sucked at fighting and couldnt even defend the same technique over and over…iots a freaking turn back kick for christs sake!

i was done with that **** right there.[/QUOTE]

The problem is these tournaments were not set up to test one’s fighting skills, it was set up to attract as many people as it could, no matter how much they sucked. I remember some years back I was competing in the brown belt division and hook kicked a guy hard enough that it left a goose egg under his eye. Not only was I disqualified, but my instructor and our school were theatened with being banned permanantely from the tournament. My instructor told the guy “They are brown belts, almost black, they should be fighting hard.” I did not intentionally try to hurt the guy, but shi**t happens, it’s martial arts for christ’s sake.

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I learned the better kung fu from a group of huizu friends.[/QUOTE]
noice. muslim kung fu is badass
[QUOTE=Dragonzbane76;1031857]I think people in general are becoming pu$$y’s. ([/QUOTE]
i think any kind of fighting training is not meant for those kind of suburb middle class people. this is the fault of greed. we ned to teech for culture not monies.

thats why im glad kung fu is getting less popular. maybe we can finally get sum quality control

my frend told me his old school in saaint louis kicks out students who dont come to class. tahts hardcore. kung fu shouldnt be worrying about getting more people. we shod be thinking about kicking out people

[QUOTE=bawang;1031860]noice. muslim kung fu is badass

i think any kind of fighting training is not meant for those kind of suburb middle class people. this is the fault of greed. we ned to teech for culture not monies.

thats why im glad kung fu is getting less popular. maybe we can finally get sum quality control

my frend told me his old school in saaint louis kicks out students who dont come to class. tahts hardcore. kung fu shouldnt be worrying about getting more people. we shod be thinking about kicking out people[/QUOTE]

people kick themselves out even if they stay as well. It’s like they’re not really there anyway.

Don’t expect any teacher to be able to beat me, I expect to be able to learn form them, nothing more.
You don’t see powerlifting coaches out lifting their trainees do you?
Or boxing coaches out boxing their fighters?
Or sprint coaches out sprinting their sprinters?

Only in MA do we expect a teacher to out perform, physically, their younger, faster, stronger students.
Why?

[QUOTE=sanjuro_ronin;1031866]Don’t expect any teacher to be able to beat me, I expect to be able to learn form them, nothing more.
You don’t see powerlifting coaches out lifting their trainees do you?
Or boxing coaches out boxing their fighters?
Or sprint coaches out sprinting their sprinters?

Only in MA do we expect a teacher to out perform, physically, their younger, faster, stronger students.
Why?[/QUOTE]

Pretty much what I said. I blame Kung Fu theatre.:smiley:

[QUOTE=Iron_Eagle_76;1031868]Pretty much what I said. I blame Kung Fu theatre.:D[/QUOTE]

Indeed, I also tend to blame students that are just to nice to “sifu” and make him think that he may be far better than he is.

indeed, i also tend to blame students that are just to nice to “sifu” and make him think that he may be far better than he is.

indeed>…

[QUOTE=sanjuro_ronin;1031870]Indeed, I also tend to blame students that are just to nice to “sifu” and make him think that he may be far better than he is.[/QUOTE]

So you are suggesting what exactly? That if my Sifu is demonstrating technique I give him a hard time? Or if he shows something that looks fishy I call bs on it? I understand that students kind of just fall over when being demonstrated on.

Giving a teacher a hard time kind of goes against the culture of a Kung fu school where the teacher is the pharaoh at the top of the pyramid and all information flows downward.

I’m telling my Sifu that Sanjoro Ronin said to kick his ass! Lol

[QUOTE=Iron_Eagle_76;1031858]I did not intentionally try to hurt the guy, but shi**t happens, it’s martial arts for christ’s sake.[/QUOTE]
now that’s just crazy talk…

Style is made by it’s practitioners.
A system is composed of principles.

Stylists each express principle in accordance to their understanding and ability to execute through following a principle.

Stylists chaneg a sytem as much as the system changes them while learning it.

But expression at the end point of training is “style” and that is entirely the individual.