[QUOTE=HardWork8;855016]Y
And more, which you would have known if you had a “deeper” understanding.
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And do you have a “deeper” understanding, Basement-Boy?
Normally I don’t do this, I am not a mod here, but I did start this thread so, back on topic please and let Mr.Dillusional wallow in his own crapulence.
Holy ****. I didn’t realise it was your given name, but I can really see why your ol’ bag called you Hard Work: it’s Hard Work getting any ****ing sense out of your spew.
What a boring troll:
claims that whatever anyone trains is fine by you (thank you oh wise one) before attempting to tell them that only your way is the real way
dismissing everyone who doesn’t agree with you as wrong, a liar, worthless, a retard, or deludedly lacking in The Real ™
spouting off about how anyone who disagrees with you doesn’t know what they are talking about and then attempting to talk about weights, exercise in general (to some qualified physical trainers and therapists who on several occasions have gone out of their way to help people out on these boards)… about which you obviously know jack ****…
Jesus… I can’t even go on: you’re a ****ing idiot and someone’s going to kick your stupid ****ing head in if you carry on the way you’re going. Viva Evolution! 
Van summed it up nicely (although I wouldn’t waste the energy on hatred): everybody can see you’re a prat.
And again, like he said, you should get over yourself: you haven’t put anyone in their place - your ‘barbs’ are as sharp as a balloon. As a famous politician once said, ‘Your criticism is like being savaged by a dead sheep.’ but less effective.
Toby: you know we love these people - it gives us a sense of mission! For a wee while… but this Lotus has already lost his Bloom.
yea…I know I’m bored of him now. So anyway back to what Sanjuro is saying…
[QUOTE=sanjuro_ronin;855024]Normally I don’t do this, I am not a mod here, but I did start this thread so, back on topic please and let Mr.Dillusional wallow in his own crapulence.[/QUOTE]
You should be the last person to make a remark like that. You have proven yourself to be a DISHONEST LIAR.
Furthermore, my statement on chin ups stands. I get the required results,which by the way were the results that I was told I would be getting. That is definition, no excessive muscle mass;etc.
If some of you guys do your chin ups differently and are getting different results then that is fine too.
This is the part of the conditioning methodology in my Wing Chun school, again if you do it in a different way, and you are happy with the results,then good for you.
[QUOTE=Vankuen;855097]yea…I know I’m bored of him now. So anyway back to what Sanjuro is saying…[/QUOTE]
So, I know some have issues with Emin, namely his mouth tends to be faster than his hands and his has some fast hands !
But I do like his WT, though, like I mentioned before, I have yet to see it in action outisde of demo’s.
[QUOTE=Mr Punch;855084]Holy ****. I didn’t realise it was your given name, but I can really see why your ol’ bag called you Hard Work: it’s Hard Work getting any ****ing sense out of your spew.
What a boring troll:
claims that whatever anyone trains is fine by you (thank you oh wise one) before attempting to tell them that only your way is the real way
dismissing everyone who doesn’t agree with you as wrong, a liar, worthless, a retard, or deludedly lacking in The Real ™
spouting off about how anyone who disagrees with you doesn’t know what they are talking about and then attempting to talk about weights, exercise in general (to some qualified physical trainers and therapists who on several occasions have gone out of their way to help people out on these boards)… about which you obviously know jack ****…
Jesus… I can’t even go on: you’re a ****ing idiot and someone’s going to kick your stupid ****ing head in if you carry on the way you’re going. Viva Evolution!
Van summed it up nicely (although I wouldn’t waste the energy on hatred): everybody can see you’re a prat.
And again, like he said, you should get over yourself: you haven’t put anyone in their place - your ‘barbs’ are as sharp as a balloon. As a famous politician once said, ‘Your criticism is like being savaged by a dead sheep.’ but less effective.
Toby: you know we love these people - it gives us a sense of mission! For a wee while… but this Lotus has already lost his Bloom.[/QUOTE]
Before you jump to anymore idiotic conclusions and bandwagons, read my last post. It clarifies what started all this. It is rather pompous of some posters to say that themanner and ideed the results I have been getting from a particular type of training should CONFORM to their understanding of the said training.
I recall someone that reviewed a few of Emin’s DVD’s saying that his WT was basically chain punching/striking as the answer to any attack.
[QUOTE=Mr Punch;855084]Holy ****. I didn’t realise it was your given name, but I can really see why your ol’ bag called you Hard Work: it’s Hard Work getting any ****ing sense out of your spew.
What a boring troll:
claims that whatever anyone trains is fine by you (thank you oh wise one) before attempting to tell them that only your way is the real way
dismissing everyone who doesn’t agree with you as wrong, a liar, worthless, a retard, or deludedly lacking in The Real ™
spouting off about how anyone who disagrees with you doesn’t know what they are talking about and then attempting to talk about weights, exercise in general (to some qualified physical trainers and therapists who on several occasions have gone out of their way to help people out on these boards)… about which you obviously know jack ****…
Jesus… I can’t even go on: you’re a ****ing idiot and someone’s going to kick your stupid ****ing head in if you carry on the way you’re going. Viva Evolution!
Van summed it up nicely (although I wouldn’t waste the energy on hatred): everybody can see you’re a prat.
And again, like he said, you should get over yourself: you haven’t put anyone in their place - your ‘barbs’ are as sharp as a balloon. As a famous politician once said, ‘Your criticism is like being savaged by a dead sheep.’ but less effective.
Toby: you know we love these people - it gives us a sense of mission! For a wee while… but this Lotus has already lost his Bloom.[/QUOTE]
By the way, the following point is relevant to what just happened. If any of these forum gods of kung fu went to traditional kung fu school worth its salt, and said that “Internals do not exist in kung fu”, “forms are outdated”, “kung fu is not functional”, they would be pollitely asked to leave (if they are lucky).
THAT IS A FACT. If you don’t follow a certain methodology when practicing traditional kung fu, then you are not practicing traditiona kung fu. Meaning that you are practicing “modern” kung fu, which more often than not resembles kickboxing.
Read and assess that last point before you go back to watchin Sanjuro’s “I am a decent person” act.
[QUOTE=sanjuro_ronin;855116]I recall someone that reviewed a few of Emin’s DVD’s saying that his WT was basically chain punching/striking as the answer to any attack.[/QUOTE]
Well…a lot of people say that. But it’s not just Emin’s. The entire WT line seems to do the same thing, which is why the EBMAS line does it as well. Funny, because their chi sao skills are great! Free flowing, soft, subtle…and yet when everything is applied in drills it’s all aboard the lin wan kuen train.
When I was there for what little time I spent there, the most common thing practiced was the chung kuen/vertical fist either in singles or triplets or in chains. I understand that is the primary punch in wing chun, but I don’t know if my front delts can take that! Generally, my style of wing chun may use some chain punching after I bridge and I get the line, but it’s to facilitate me moving closer to gain control over the head/neck and proceed with elbows and knees. If I’m picking away or can’t get in closer because I’m fighting someone good–I’ll use lin wan kuen in shots of 3-5, as by then if I’m not able to get in all the way the opponent will have most likely reacted well enough to get guard again. At least that’s my experience with it. Not everyone is going to let you cross their arms and pound their face without trying to fight back…
[QUOTE=Vankuen;855121]Well…a lot of people say that. But it’s not just Emin’s. The entire WT line seems to do the same thing, which is why the EBMAS line does it as well. Funny, because their chi sao skills are great! Free flowing, soft, subtle…and yet when everything is applied in drills it’s all aboard the lin wan kuen train.
When I was there for what little time I spent there, the most common thing practiced was the chung kuen/vertical fist either in singles or triplets or in chains. I understand that is the primary punch in wing chun, but I don’t know if my front delts can take that! Generally, my style of wing chun may use some chain punching after I bridge and I get the line, but it’s to facilitate me moving closer to gain control over the head/neck and proceed with elbows and knees. If I’m picking away or can’t get in closer because I’m fighting someone good–I’ll use lin wan kuen in shots of 3-5, as by then if I’m not able to get in all the way the opponent will have most likely reacted well enough to get guard again. At least that’s my experience with it. Not everyone is going to let you cross their arms and pound their face without trying to fight back…;)[/QUOTE]
This is true, people do tend to hit back, I hate that.
The very physical nature of WT is quite appealing to me, but I think that chain punching needs to be done with more angles and levels than we tend to see from Emin and his Wt.
Again, would be nice to see it in actual combat with someone other than another WT person.
Well…here locally there’s a guy that teaches EBMAS named Nico Lahood. This guy is a physically gifted individual. He’s in shape, works out with the class (as opposed to just talking), he’s respectful and seems truly concerned with the performance of his students and their ability to fight. He even does a 30 min cardio session to make sure people are in shape enough to fight. At times, he’ll have friends come in that practice other arts to expose his students to groundwork and other things.
So though I may have disagreements with some of the tactics…the training is top notch.
I just wish Emin didn’t do his salsa dancing while doing chi sao with another half naked guy at one of his seminars. That will never be lived down. They did absolutely 0 to help the image of wing chun! lol
Well…here locally there’s a guy that teaches EBMAS named Nico Lahood. This guy is a physically gifted individual. He’s in shape, works out with the class (as opposed to just talking), he’s respectful and seems truly concerned with the performance of his students and their ability to fight. He even does a 30 min cardio session to make sure people are in shape enough to fight. At times, he’ll have friends come in that practice other arts to expose his students to groundwork and other things.
Sounds like serious and practical training.
I just wish Emin didn’t do his salsa dancing while doing chi sao with another half naked guy at one of his seminars. That will never be lived down. They did absolutely 0 to help the image of wing chun! lol
I don’t dare ask…
You don’t have to…it’s part of the Bullshido “wing chun sucks” compilation on you tube.
If you watch it, you have to admit, the stuff on the video doesn’t make any of us chunners look good…but it’s all in fun to me. If I spent to the time to find a bunch of crappy wrestlers I could put that up and say “wrestling sucks”…but I simply don’t care enough to do that…that it would be harder to find the crappy ones since most are good. Quite the opposite in our circles…unfortunately.
[QUOTE=Vankuen;855128]You don’t have to…it’s part of the Bullshido “wing chun sucks” compilation on you tube.
If you watch it, you have to admit, the stuff on the video doesn’t make any of us chunners look good…but it’s all in fun to me. If I spent to the time to find a bunch of crappy wrestlers I could put that up and say “wrestling sucks”…but I simply don’t care enough to do that…that it would be harder to find the crappy ones since most are good. Quite the opposite in our circles…unfortunately.[/QUOTE]
TCMA tend to be a constipated bunch, almost as bad as the TJMA LOL !
Prune juice is the way to go.