Some MMA guy has called out Emin
I like how there are 30 things you can’t do in his No-Holds-Barred tournament.
i have read other forums and emin is got challenged by royce gracie and bas rutten, why do people challenge him, is it because he is a good fighter or does he have a big mouth?
Big mouth.
The biggest.
He claims things that he can’t back up.
MasterKiller, the early UFC’s and even now in Brazil they have tourney’s where the only rules are no biting, no eye gouging, and no fish hooking. You have a problem with those?
Originally posted by Ford Prefect
MasterKiller, the early UFC’s and even now in Brazil they have tourney’s where the only rules are no biting, no eye gouging, and no fish hooking. You have a problem with those?
Nope. I’m all for fighter safety. But, if you have 30 things you can’t do, it’s not no-holds-barred, now is it?
this happens about twice a year. Boztepe never takes the challenge, he’s too busy beating up on old men 
Emin has a big mouth and claims to have had over 400 fights in his lifetime on the street and he came out A-OK all because of EBMAS…
Emin won’t accept it because there are rules. He said time and again, if you want to fight him, go visit his school in L.A. and they’ll walk out in front of the school and do it right there. No gloves, no mat, no rules, etc.
Well, I’m no Wing tschunm guy, but I’ve met Emin Boztepe. He demonstrated a competent level of Turkish wrestling skills (probably Greco-Roman though from his school days in Germany). I can see why some would find him pompus - he was ready and willing to fight to prove his point. Which is no vice, as long as it is tempered by a little discretion and humanity. I don’t get the impression that he is the worlds greatest fighter, but I don’t think he would get as tooled as easy as most Wing Chun guys in a MMA situation either.
He gets criticized for fighting William Cheung - but WC was talking a lot of smack, these things happen. I would criticize the fight itself - it did not look very much how the VT fights are suppossed to go.
Ah, but what do I know…
I would have these removed.
- Small joint manipulation.
- Striking using the elbow.
- Throat strikes of any kind, including, without limitation, grabbing the
trachea. - Clawing, pinching or twisting the flesh (os, that means - no titty twisters!).
- Grabbing the clavicle.
- Kicking the head of a grounded opponent.
- Kneeing the head of a grounded opponent.
- Stomping a grounded opponent.
To clarify
- Is not the same as being elusive.
Thsi one might be fun.
- Throwing an opponent out of the fenced area.
I hope this fight happens. That would be cool.
There is a link on that page to Emin’s site or something where he’s challenging the Gracie’s directly. He says the only rules will be no gloves and the winner is the one who knocks out his opponent.
No gloves, eh?
Interesting.
So would that allow eye gouges and such?
IronFist, it [i]won’t ever[/i] happen. That challenge has been up on Boztepe’s site for years. Boztepe will NEVER accept ANY challenge unless it is in front of his school (or another building) because he says he does not train or fight with rules, but for the street. What better place to fight, than the street? He most likely won’t even allow you to fight him in his Kwoon.
won’t fight unless it is on the “street”, geeze, may be someone should have told him william cheung wasn’t on the street, but he didn’t have any problem fighting william.
May be “street” is being used as a metaphor. This “street” can be anywhere you want it to be. But, in this case, it seems that the street is the street in front of his school and only that street.
err, just read the open letter and it is not a serious challenge. It is just a freakin promotion for the nhb event promoter to make some money.
Heck, following their logics, I should hold an nhb event somewhere in the US, issue an open challenge to the Gracies, have they come down to beat my ass. I cover their train ticket and the stay at the local YMCA ('cuss that’s how frugal I am), but I get to sell tickets and keep all the money. “brilliant”.
rule number 7 :eek: :eek: :eek:
WanderingMonk, that was EIGHTEEN years ago. You can not sit there and tell me your opinions on any subject have changed in 18 years. Maybe 18 years ago he had alot of crap going on, but Cheung was bad mouthing everyone (and still is actually) claiming he had the only true Wing Chun, and he was the toughest man alive. Boztepe called him on it, and Cheung TURNED his back to him. Maybe 18 years ago Boztepe had a different opinion on fighting, but people change. No one is consistent on every single opinion over an 18 year period. A 20 year old might have no problem drinking and driving, but when he or she is 38, they will think differently.
18 years ago, I thought girls had cooties.
hey wandering monk, whatyour not seeing is that Bobo trains hardcore qigong but it only works on asphault.
For those who don’t realise, Bob attacked WC for publicity. They were both going back and forth talking smack, Emin decided to represent his organization and throw down. Sadly there wasn’t a lick of wingchun in the whole fight.
I’m not a fan of Emin
But I can’t bad mouth him for not accepting these challenges. He’s rich and famous… who are these bums?
If Jose Conseco traveld to every playground where some pimply 18-year-old though he had a good curveball and could strike him out – he’d be tied up for years. You want to play at that level, get to that level.
Now, when I feel I am ready to really represent what I’m learning (and not just testing) I would like to have ago with guys like that. But I would send them a private letter and go to them.
As far as he fights outside his school; you kind of have to when someone shows up infront of your school and students … comes with the trade.
Originally posted by MasterKiller
18 years ago, I thought girls had cooties.
18 years ago, I was flirting with women who were 18. Now, I am still flirting with these women.
Funny story, when I was 5, I went to go to the high school my brother went to. My mom had to pick him up during class for a doctor’s appointment and they showed us to the classroom. Back then it wasn’t as embarassing for your mom to come in to get you, and I went in with her. I remember staring at all the hot women with there 1988 hair cuts and thinking “Wow, these women are hot” and I was only 5. I never was into the whole cootie thing. I liked women as far back as I can remember, though I was shy, I loved how they were all like “AWwww, he’s so adorable.” when they saw me. I like to think that when this happened, I thought “Oh, yeah…” when in reality I was probably scared and ran behind my mom.
red5angel, now don’t say that. There was some Wing Chun in that fight. They both “felt” through there sensitivity training in Chi Sao where the other person was as they were playing the slappy hand game on the ground. 
I think they both felt something anyway!