I’ve tried to look through other sources - like regular knife collections/stores but on the internet it is kind of hard to tell whether they really fit.
Anyone have any source for some appropriate higher quality daggers?
I’ve tried to look through other sources - like regular knife collections/stores but on the internet it is kind of hard to tell whether they really fit.
Anyone have any source for some appropriate higher quality daggers?
Those ring daggers are basically the same as you’ll get anywhere.
If it’s a question of quality of steel and all that, then try and find a set from a decent forge.
but that is the shape of them as far as tcma double daggers go.
There are knife shops everywhere. If you want to learn with a live real blade, there’s no problem in getting something the same size, more or less. It’s hard to find that ring pommel, but most kung fu forms don’t make use of that. It’s an artifact of traditional style.
[QUOTE=Oso;901764]look for Cold Steel’s True Flight Thrower…inexpensive and well made and nearly identical to the shape of the common chrome double daggers.[/QUOTE]
Ditto, that’s what I use and I got them free with a moderate order. WL Double Dagger set doesn’t use the rings anyhow.
Just practice a lot before going ‘live’ as a dagger in the leg is not a pretty sight (you know the move can anyone say Crazy Frank??? ).
I have scars on my body from training the two-person double dagger vs empty hand, remember that one? Of course I had to always do the empty hand side!:rolleyes: One instance at a Chinese New Year Steve sliced my arm up pretty good.
Cold Steele’s Shanghai Shadow looks like one of the daggers. they are sold separately so for a set, it would run $73.98 plus shipping and such…[/QUOTE]
About the only difference I can see - without actually touching them, is that the ‘real’ blades are (1) more expensive (over 2x more) which is to be expected, (2) black (yeah, silver blades would be better…but it IS a real blade), and (3) the ‘real’ ones do not have the handles wrapped or the rings on them that you can affix little flags. - both of which can be remedied with standard things from sporting goods stores and then from the hardware store (key rings work fine.
The two would not necessarily fit flat together like the cheaper ones…but I have never seen a real pair so do they REALLY fit together anyway?
An option was asked for…this is about the only thing out there that will actually hold an edge and would look and feel like the traditional Chinese double daggers.
it’s not that they weren’t a very close reproduction…i don’t like the design at all. just my opinion…didn’t say ‘they suck’, just that I didn’t like.
i only somewhat vicariously know the first part of a double dagger kung fu set (the same one yu and yao are talking about) most of my knife is of the philipine and japanese persuasion…i prefer a single edge vs. double edge
Whoever wrote the item description of the Shanghai Shadow was on point about the use of the ring. I am familiar with one tradition that still maintains that usage and they were based in Shanghai before WWII. The only reservation I have with the knife is the shape of the blade. It should look more like the Fairborne knife, designed to attack organs.
The uses for the ring does not exist in every tradition; but, it does not mean it is extinct.
[QUOTE=mickey;901973]Greetings,
Whoever wrote the item description of the Shanghai Shadow was on point about the use of the ring. I am familiar with one tradition that still maintains that usage and they were based in Shanghai before WWII.[/QUOTE]
How’s that work? The only way I can think of is by holding the knife with the index finger only when using a forward grip, which doesn’t strike me as exceptionally secure.
Looks like you can also get the CS ones with a cord wrap in place of the poly handle, like so.
Cheaper, looks more comfy, and might even help the two to lay flatter against one another.
I’m rather curious to know how well, if at all, they function as throwers, too. A twofer-deal on a knife made by such a good brand would be a nice find.
My commentary was strictly about the use of the ring. Now, the accuracy of the technique involved in using the ring is another thing. You have three more fingers. Try to find out for yourself. No disrespect meant–its that self learning can be fun.
can anyone say Crazy Frank??? ).