[QUOTE=SevenStar;759176]No, I don’t think so.[/QUOTE]
Of course not , you were the one seeing swings where there were none. You got fooled and now you can’t admit it.
It was a work, and a now a confirmed work. Yes, the jits people tried to cling to this like a baby to its mom. Then again, they tried to make that jumping monkey jits guys look legit too.
All this “TMA is this” and “MMA is that” is all masturbation. You either fight or you don’t. I have witnessed the same suckage in both camps. MMA is MIXED RANGE TMA. One wouldn’t exist without the other.
And to continue lumping the ones that fight with the ones that don’t is pure lump rubbing.
:rolleyes:
There was one good thing about the ranking system the Japanese invented. People couldn’t just take 6 months of something and go on talking and acting like they were the shiznit. "I’m a yellow belt " cut that shit right out. I see that in some MMA people all the time. They yap yap yap about what they do and how great they are, yet they totally suck. Some are totally brainwashed, just like in some TMA schools, that they are superior humans that can’t be defeated.
Give it up, you’re either a good fighter or you’re not. Period. All this style nutrider humping is for the birds.
[QUOTE=Mega-Foot;759263]So, with all that experience, of seeing strikers annihilate ground fighters, what in the world so dazzled you during the course of that video, that you were willing to throw all those memories out the window, and say: this looks real!.[/QUOTE]
You’ve got it backwards. I trained at Torrance Gracie during the challenge years, so I had a chance to witness many challenge matches. It was the grapplers who annihilated the strikers.
As has been said, break can happen if you don’t tap, sometimes they happen because people don’t tap in time, I’ve seen breaks in compettion and a few in classes, been on the receving end of a few injuries myself
I honestly believe if you went back in time to the period when there were constant challenges and lots of actual fighting in TCMA, you’d have seen a lot less variation in the systems, a lot less crap… back then it wasn’t considered competition, but it darn well served the same purpose..
I’ve seen just as much foolishness KF - yet was not fooled by this ‘work.’ I’m not sure that is a valid excuse, if anything, it should have made it more obvious.
But since the actor moved in a way familiar to you (a BJJ student probably, with no striking experience) you fell for the fraud, instead of seeing what it was - a guy who did not even know how to pretend what he was.
I remember preparing to watch the first UFC - my money was on the grapplers. Why? In the industrialized West our ‘striking arts’ people had no idea how to deal with throwing skills - good or bad. I won many a match because people had delusions as to what a fight was. Things have grown since then in many positive ways, yet I see the MMA world slowly falling into the trap all combat sports fall into… let me name some names: fencing anf judo.
Mass popularization=rules that make the sport less dangerous, so that the fan base and interested parties, who would train the art if it wasn’t so dangerous, are willing to sign a contract and learn the techniques that have made their TV heroes popular.
That’s why it pays to train in a traditional art, which does not sell out like MMA, or have it’s practitioners rolling around in the dirt like animals. I mean, we roll around in the dirt when we’re running the gauntlet, but it’s one of the obstacles, and trains for real life scenarios–crawling under fences, etc.
[QUOTE=Mas Judt;759322]
But since the actor moved in a way familiar to you (a BJJ student probably, with no striking experience) you fell for the fraud, instead of seeing what it was - a guy who did not even know how to pretend what he was.[/QUOTE]
LOL… really?
So, in the first 5 seconds of the infamous MMA vs. kung fu, can you recognize who is the striker and who is the grappler?
[QUOTE=SifuAbel;759264]Of course not , you were the one seeing swings where there were none. You got fooled and now you can’t admit it.[/quote]
not surprisingly, your head is up your arse again. I never said I thought it was real. BUT, that odesn’t change the fact that his lowered hand pulled back.
We can only tell that, because someone said a BJJ instructor was delivering a sermon during a seminar, and all the students are facing the guy in the white shirt.
Funny though. The only strikes thrown are by a BJJ guy, and he’s kicking someone on the ground. Only goes to show–never hit the ground with anyone who outnumbers you. You’ll just get kicked in the head.
[QUOTE=Mega-Foot;759325]That’s why it pays to train in a traditional art, [/QUOTE]
i.e. a system developed by a bunch of theoretical non-fighters based on how they think fighting is supposed to be rather than how it really is, whose participants pretend to train against compliant partners.
Rogue - by consistent, I’m referring to consistently producing people who have a good percentage chance of pulling off thier technique against an equally skilled player.
KF - I’m referring to your ardent defence and building a case for what was happening - when in fact NONE of it was happening. Posting a boob fight doesn’t really help. I’ve had plenty of matches with people who beleived in thier ‘art’ versus thier training - and lately they seem to be claiming MMA. Which is funny.
