well following your logic
of all the possible things you could bring to the table , of all the interesting wing chun questions and experiences you could share and express
you decided it was better to openly question some ones intent
like that would in some way be a benifit for everyone to read and be part of ?
I think the real question is whether your alleged pearls of wisdom, which the rest of us swine ignored, are actually of value in the real world.
If this stuff was real, surely we would have seen or heard more of it in court cases and the like … ah, but it’s too deadly … so when was the last time a “Master” got thrown in the slammer for its abuse? Are they all too morally pure for that? GMAB.
If it IS real, how will you defend its use after your arrest? How will your Sifu justify having taught it to you? [/B]
you are right…it would hard to defend…considering the whole concept of qi and meridians is so hard for the average westerner to understand intellectually or emtionally…
I’ve often said that it can be a savage art…and I have no idea why you would want to do alot of these things to anyone..I mainly use my dim mak for healing purposes but there are enough points to cover a non-lethal or life-impeding strike. I am confident that if it were life and death, I could use dim mak and survive, but it would be in combination with throws and blocks etc and little damage as was necc. I guess that’s why it’s so hard to find, and why you will be lucky to have it taught to you if you do. If you have this information, it’s highly unlikely you
Definately can’t resist the urge to add my 2 cents worth here.
Firstly, I read almost everything that KJ writes, why? Because, when she writes something it isn’t just spewed out like a bad leak (such things result from accidents or mishaps or lack of proper care), rather it smoothly, yet powerfully flows from a well maintained tap. The results are thought provoking posts, that consistently make good points of some sort. (hmmmm maybe I am the stalker lol).
Her diplomacy is a tribute to her true WC soul, and serves as an encouraging reminder of how we all should strive to behave.
Another important point is that while I have seen her diplomacy to be exceptional, it is clear in her writings, that she feels strongly about certain things and has no problem making a firm stand in her views. I hardly see her as the wishy washy type that is just running around appeasing people in the hopes that someday someone will accept her. Nope, definately does not fit how I read KJ.
Diplomacy and acceptance or understanding of varying opinions does not infer lack of substance or backbone and it is a shame that some seem to think it does. Fortunately, not everyone is short sighted and can think outside the box or we would all be in a sad state of affairs.
FWIW, I am not a guy nevermind one trying to kiss her butt, nor am I a long time (or short time for that matter) acquaintance, nor do we share lineage, countries, recipes (couldn’t resist that one) etc. I am simply another reader of this forum who enjoys her posts, finds true substance in them and realizes that despite our differences there is a lot that can be shared and learned.
Finally, this is a perfect quote, I wish I could come up with stuff like this.
KJ, gotta love ya!
Thanks for your interest, but enough about me. Is there some Wing Chun related question on which you’d like my perspective?
I so totally avoided this thread because I figured it was a troll post and people would be displaying various levels of sense of humor. I was correct based on the first few posts, so I almost left the thread. Then i read further…
I am aware of many different dim mak type concepts. It is a pretty broad term, becuase there are tons of techniques that effect the body in different ways. Like striking someone on their arm and effecting their large intestine, and so on and so forth.
The human body is a biological machine with interconnected systems. I can see how effecting one part of the body directly, indirectly effects another part. So, my question is to you, what are your training methods for dim mak? Also what are the goals of your training methods? Are you training to kill, disable, long term effect, or all of the above?
dhira
dude some people really buy into this stuff i think i’ll go to my local boxing gym and ask if i can spar and try and apply dim mak to a jab or a cross to see if i can get a knock out
the after they wake me up off the floor we can all watch the video and just have a good laugh
one of the kenpo guys at my school is big into dim mak and he told me he could hit me in a certain sequence and drop me
so i walked over to the grass [ just in case i really fell] and he did his thing after about 3 trys i just stood there and looked at him and asked him if he could hit the other side of my body cus it felt kind of like a massage
I once tried to phoenix eye someones kidney meridian while simultaneously disrupting their Chi flow by manipulating their chakras with my aura- I got KTFO for my trouble:mad:
FWIW, I have a few years in an okinawan system that taught pressure point fighting (was not called dim mak). I can honestly say it is real. The thing is every human is different. Some are real sensitive to certain pressure points, and others are pretty much immune to them. I am sure you have learned some sort of chin na that utilizies pressure points. I have been hit on a radial nerve on my forearm and been dropped cuz it hurt so bad. There are obviously ways to condition your body to make it harder to use pressure point fighting against you.
The person who tried hitting you probably did not know what they were doing. Most of the pressure point fighting I learned is used in joint locks, and manipulations.
I once tried to phoenix eye someones kidney meridian while simultaneously disrupting their Chi flow by manipulating their chakras with my aura- I got KTFO for my trouble
gfist
[The person who tried hitting you probably did not know what they were doing. Most of the pressure point fighting I learned is used in joint locks, and manipulations.
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this guy is a 20 year martial arts vetran and teacher with various black belts
but to be honest gary knows alot of that stuff and has tried it on me and said i’m a walking dead man since i don’t feel any of it
i think it’s just cause i’m in good shape
or scare tissue from all the bones i have broken
either way way waste your time on something that is hard to pull off and might not work
there are plenty of sensitive areas of the body- nose eyes temple thoat carotid artery spine solar plexis ribs bladder groin shins etc.
It hurts like F_uck to get hit in any of these points.
The claims that some people make for Dimmak are of a different order altogther i.e. if i hit you in these points in this order at this time of day then in exactly 14.25 hours you will loose bowel control.
Ernie- the Dilman types of folks do not have a delivery system.
You gotta be a non resiting stationery victim.
And there are varying definitions of what dim mak is.
They are not all the same.