Can anyone tell me the main differences between Yang and Chen style Taichi?
One was made by the Chen’s
One was made by the Yang’s..
any other questions…
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Chen stylists focus on expressing more fajing than Yang..
you bastich…
how about a little detail?
I know that we focus on a lot of uprooting, thats about it. I can spot the two styles easily… however, I’m not versed at all in Chen, so I’m of no real help here.
Go ahead and say it.
hehe, I’m going to skip it for the sake of good conversation ![]()
so you study Yang? Tell me about it if you can.
Also, when di dyou turn into an asian guy with a hair dryer addiction?!
Just some basic observations-
Chen is more concerned with spiralling internally in every movement, the Yang will start out more concerned with the 10 essential points of taiji, and go right to forms weapons and push hands, as well as follow, join, sticking, and adhereing.
Chen stancework is more like a “bridge” with the legs, and the weight shifting in the 2 styles may be slightly modified from each other, so opening and closing may be in slightly different directions at different times, but not really.
I think the emphasises are slightly different sometimes, but the main form is the same form in both, and they certainly are related to each other, and really the same style I think. I’d say, modifications in the weightshifting, opening and closing , and the chan su jin or spiralling.
Some Yang style has 2 peson forms, but I have never heard of any in chen style, and if I’m not wrong there isn’t one. I’m probably not very clear sounding, and of course just my opinion and observations.
It’s my tribute to Gene… I’m going to keep it for a little while.
We focus on a lot of throws and pushes, some chin na, and obviously some striking as well. Our fajing is expressed primarily in our kicks. Seperate foot is the only one done slow, the rest are done quick. Sweep the lotus, which is a outside crecent kick, is done at the end of our forms, after the “qi” is built up. The other, which is a front kick (that I haven’t had a chance to play with alot yet) is done quick as well. To tell you the truth, this is a little decieving, as almost any step can be a kick in Yang style, some practice them, some don’t. Step back repulse monkey, fan through the back, etc., seem to be the very obvious and we show the kick and they are done slow as well, but with taiji walking, the step is very easily converted to a spike.
I’ll get beat up if I get too far into it,
, so, thats all I’ll say for now.
the original yang creater learned tiaji form the chen creator or 2nd gen. i have it in a book. yang, sun, wu taiji all come from chen style.
The easiest thing spot for me:
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Chen uses larger movements, wider and deeper stances and postures and employs fajing to a greater extent.
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Yang uses smaller frame, does not use fajing as much and maintains a constant speed.
As an aside, it is said that Yang was developed from Chen.
cheers
There’s clips of the various taiji styles here and here and here for comparison.
The Chen compilation video following that first link has a remarkable performance starting at 4:59; does anyone know who that is?
Differences the I have noted with people that I have touched hands with using chen.
The chen seems to be very concerned with keeping a frame (peng) and using this while the yang style at lest as I practice it dose not. The idea of central neutrality is very highly expressed in the yang forms even more so depending on the teacher or yamg family style followed…
The fajin that many talk of is also expressed in the yang styles, but its not easy to see. Each style has some very unique qualities and are just expressions of different insights by different masters.
True the yang developed from the idea of chen, this does not make the chen better nor the yang style weaker. Only different.
Each is equally hard to get, with the chen having some more energetic movement expressions.
As some pointed out, chen, yang, wu are all expressions of an idea created by noted masters. They are not the idea itself. Eventually we all have to find our own taiji.
A curious contrast whose origin I’m not aware of concerns the basic push hands pattern: it seems that only Chen style practices with a non-symmetrical position (one person in an open position, the other, closed).
Originally posted by Christopher M
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The Chen compilation video following that first link has a remarkable performance starting at 4:59; does anyone know who that is?
Chen Xiaowang. 19th Generation Lineage Bearer for Chen Family Taiji.
One is like Tom Selleck and the other is like Kevin Costner. But they are both like Woody Allen.
Originally posted by QuaiJohnCain
Chen Xiaowang.
Thanks. Makes you wanna go out and learn Chen style.
Is there any chen style instructors in Colorado? I’m regretting leaving say-town a little due to the two very good sifus:
1.Kirk Woller (Combat Shuai Chiao)
2.Sal De La Rosa (Chen Style Taiji)
Sal’s Taiji was very impressive. When I go back I plan to join his classes. Thats sorta why I was wondering if there is any Chen in Colorado.
you don’t like yang style?
or you just want to be consitent with your learnings cap?
I haven’t seen any Yang practioners in person, but I have met two Chen Sifus who were both very impressive. I’m not really partial its just that I thats whats been around me. That and I heard it worked pretty well with Shuai Chiao.
I have previously studied a little yang and now chen…I think in chen you seem to work harder and greater focus is on foot pos and leg stance…with more changes in each set of movements…also the hands are a little more complicated…with yang…I had a great time and felt it to be more dynamic…chen to be much more flowy…total opposite of what someone said before…I know all taiji is internal but chen feels to me more so…focus on more meridians maybe??