train his body for physical improvementß
i mean did he train push ups or his stomach or his legs like bruce lee did for instants?
does anybody know something about this?
come on. this cant be it. he must at least have done some jogging or rope skipping and train his stomach against punches and so on. he was a proffessional fighter. he had to be fit to challenge people like boxer, thais, other kung fu stiles or kyokoshinkai-men. he didnt just went there and so here i am. if the fight takes longer than 3 minutes we stop and i go home.
come on boys let it out;)
No, apparently he tried pushups later on in life, but felt they slowed him down, so he stopped them.
He got all his strength and power from WC training.
Hi Frank,
I got this somewhat funny and human story of Wong. Wong was very busy engaged in several book/video projects where he had to pose for several video/camera shots during his later years. He was not quite in shape at the time, so he often gave away his chinese lunches to his students in order to keep down his weight. He knew full well that the camera doesn’t blink and he hated looking sloppy. The mind is a terrible thing to waste, but for Wong a waist is a terrible thing to mind.
Regards,
I read where he was asked that in an interview and said he swam a lot. If I find the article I’ll let you know.
Stevo
Isnt Wong known for doing a 100 one hand press-ups with a sack on his back.
WSl
was very conditioned when he fought , he ran swam and there were wieghts in his gym
he would practice footwork and punching with people sitting on his shoulders
there are tons of things the list goes on …
but what has any of this have to do with you [YOU ARE NOT WSL]
this is not 1950
and the guys your more likely to fight are bigger faster and more informed than they people from the 50’s
but then again some of you might believe in chi
just a small word of advice take it or leave it , but you will never be the person you try and copy
be yourself , take responsibility for your own development
or should we follow this hero worship logic a step furthur and start smoking and drinking like WSL did or perhaps become opium junkies like Yip :rolleyes:
Ernie,
Dont even go there my hackles are rising my blood boiling im gonna unload on some one big time. This topic again AARRRRRGGGGGGHHHHHHHH
Im sorry but what WSL may or may not have said regarding pressups should not be taken as gospel. Should this of been said at all, judging by WSL’s extensive physical training regieme catalogued by David Peterson, im sure that was a joke and not to be taken seriously. Should anyone ever say you can be a great fighter without conditioning they are talking out of their #####
[[just a small word of advice take it or leave it , but you will never be the person you try and copy
be yourself , take responsibility for your own development ]]]
Amen to that buddy.
Kev
As stated by Ernie, my Sifu pushed himself to the limit in his training, especially in his ‘beimo’ years and believed in hard training and conditioning. Sometimes he took this to the point where he adversely effected his health and required rest and tonics to recover (see article at: www.cebridge.com.au/wongwebsite/Kwoon/Legend.htm). I keep hearing these stories about him not doing push-ups and weight training because it “…slowed him down…” but I can state catagorically that he never spoke thus in my presence and in fact was encouraging when it came to supplementary exercises of most kinds, offering sound advice concerning developing the best results for one’s individual needs from such exercises. This included having and using weights in his school and getting his students running, skipping, etc. In any case, Ernie is right when he advises you to be responsible for your own development and stop living in the past. Sifu himself always taught us to be the best that we can be, and not to try to be a copy of someone else. An original is always better than a cheap imitation.
DMP
dude I hear you !
people lose track of what is really important
not what man ate for breakfast but what an effective training method he left behind and beyond that his attitude towards training
research , test , refine
keep an open mind , look for the most direct and efficient way
if there is a better way show me I want to know
these are a handful of the gems that point toward personal growth and checks and balances
not if he did 200 sit ups or 201
his body and mind were his own and unique
just like everyone else’s
David / Kev
good to see you guys around 
Originally posted by Ernie
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but what has any of this have to do with you [YOU ARE NOT WSL]
this is not 1950
and the guys your more likely to fight are bigger faster and more informed than they people from the 50’s
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Knowing your History is very important.
Not knowing where you came from is a great source of ignorance.
Originally posted by Vio
Knowing your History is very important.
Not knowing where you came from is a great source of ignorance.
ignorance is bliss
ps i came from a womans womb just so happend to break water in cuba , now i’m in the usa
god that sure helped with my pak sau i feel so much better now :rolleyes:
Very nice article from your provided link, DP! I love it! =)
OOH OOH I GOT ONE!!!
Did WSL ever shyt and think it was going to be a phart? I guess the PC term would be “shart” right? So did WSL ever shart?! :eek:
If he did that, then that must be something key in his training and we should all do it. Maybe that’s why his footwork was so different from the traditionalists we see today…
You want to elaborate on that one, Vankuen???
I didn’t think I would need to. People look to past archtypes to emulate or find justification in their training…
It’s similar to that of finding effectiveness of something based on how the other person succeeded in doing so…wait…it’s exactly the same.
So my last post was simply poking fun at it.
Don’t tell me you don’t know what a shart is? Ever seen a movie called “Along came Polly” ?
Wong Shun Leung was one of the very best Wing Chun fighters of the 20th century.
Very few people were in his class - fewer still were those who surpassed him.
We shouldn’t take him lightly.
And his training methods ARE of interest.
Vankuen:
Sorry, Mate, …don’t know the movie but did figure out the meaning and guessed you were kidding. We are obvioulsy of like-mind as far as living in the past goes 
DMP
Originally posted by David Peterson
As stated by Ernie, my Sifu pushed himself to the limit in his training, especially in his ‘beimo’ years and believed in hard training and conditioning. Sometimes he took this to the point where he adversely effected his health and required rest and tonics to recover (see article at: www.cebridge.com.au/wongwebsite/Kwoon/Legend.htm). I keep hearing these stories about him not doing push-ups and weight training because it “…slowed him down…” but I can state catagorically that he never spoke thus in my presence and in fact was encouraging when it came to supplementary exercises of most kinds, offering sound advice concerning developing the best results for one’s individual needs from such exercises. This included having and using weights in his school and getting his students running, skipping, etc. DMP
Thanks for the info and link, David. I think I speak for many on the forum, when I say its great to have the privilege of someone so close to WSL share their knowledge of him first-hand.
WSL was one of a handful of Yip students that ever developed demonstrable real skill. So the question to ask is how did Wong (and those few others) get the results he did (what did he do that so many of the others did not) – because we can use that information (and inspiration) to help our own WCK development (if that’s an interest of ours). I’m not talking about micro-details (how did he hold his tan sao) but overall. Was it secret info or special knowledge that the other students of Yip just didn’t get? Or, did he train hard, fight (do WCK), use that experience to tweak his training, and fight (do WCK) some more? (Isn’t there even a story about Yip suggesting an altering of Wong’s SNT form because of his getting hit in a fight?). Did he wait until he “completed the whole system” before fighting?
Another interesting question is why did Wong respond when asked about how he won his fights that he used WCK and boxing? Did this have anything to do with his admonishment of “using WCK and not letting it use you” or “don’t be a slave to WCK”?
T Niehoff wrote:
[[Did this have anything to do with his admonishment of “using WCK and not letting it use you” or “don’t be a slave to WCK”?]]
There was a story from one of WSL’s challange fights whereby he ended the fight with a knee to the face and when talking to his fellow classmates after the fight he was admonished for not using a set “technique” as found in the form. Once again a clear demonstration of not looking beyond the moon pointing finger with regard to his classmates. Lesson for everyone there not to look at techniques but Concepts…
David P:
Im sure that when you read this should i of mistold the story you can correct me:) 