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What the two groups above need to understand, imo, is that this guy has never, in all the years of posting on this forum, given any verifiable evidence as to exactly who it is he’s been working with, how often, and for how long. And needless to say, what this all amounts to is Niehoff hiding “exactly what his level is”…
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You are a liar, and being idiotic.
I have said where (the gyms) I train many times, how often I train, etc.
Have you or anyone else posted “evidence as to exactly who it is he’s been working with, how often, and for how long.” No.
In fact, Robert Chu once posted about how much Terence learned from him; and once you sifted through Robert’s remarks carefully, it became obvious (to me anyway) that Terence couldn’t have possibly spent more than about 5 or 6 face-to-face sessions with Robert. It was carefully worded by Robert - but what I just said is exactly what it amounted to.
AS I told you before, I had trained WCK for 17 years before I went to train with Robert. I’ve provided the names of who I trained with. I visited Robert because I found that I was lacking in my WCK – that I knew the forms, drills, some kuit, etc., but that I couldn’t make it work to my satisfaction. I trained privately with Robert for about 100 hours of actual hands-on training with him (he and I worked out together), and I also visited his LA class, had him here for a seminar, etc. He taught me the things I was missing, things like the faat mun, body structure, the kuit, etc. - things you still don’t have.
Robert told me at some point that I had learned his method and that he didn’t think I needed to continue training with him, but that I should go out and “let application be my sifu.”
Robert has also visited us here and met the guys I train WCK with.
And everything else that Terence has said about his wing chun background has also been murky; ie.- there’s no way to verify one way or the other just who he learned from, how long he studied with them, how often he attended, and what his skill level was.
LOL! Tell me, Victor, is my “background” any “murkier” than Alan’s?
The same, as I’ve already alluded to, with his claims to be working with mma people, MT people, and BJJ people.
And when someone from this forum last year wanted to come and spar with him in St. Louis (something that lawyer Niehoff has always presented as being do-able for the people here)…Niehoff put up road blocks - and it never happened…while trying to “spin” it so as to make the other guy look crazy.
Are you talking about Clarnece/Yoshi (who lives in St. Louis) – the road block being he had to pay a $10 visitor fee to the YMCA! Or the HFY guy who was going to “show me” but never showed up?
And then there was the wing chun sparring get-together in Cleveland, Ohio about 6-7 years ago…he’s coming…he’s coming…he’s gonna really show us how to make wing chun work…he’s in great physical shape…
and then he doesn’t show - and immediately stops posting here for a good 6-7 months. Coincidence?
I already addressed this – you know that you are lying.
And before that, at the HFY Friendship seminar back around 1999…he goes…and refuses to touch hands with anyone.
More lies.
AND THEN…for years here…he ripped into HFY and the HFY people (including Garrett Gee of course)…for being phonies ands charlatans.
So?
And repeated calls to post a vid of himself doing something - anything - has always resulted in nothing being posted…and with the extra added audacity (phonieness describes it better)…
of telling people on a number of occasions (posts) that they don’t “deserve” to see what he can do - they have to “earn it themselves”.
Excuse me, but am I the only one who sees a pattern here?
Yes, that people like you who are scrubs and won’t do the work of actually training with good people, but who want to consider themselves authorities, don’t like being exposed.
FROM THE VERY SAME GUY WHO NEVER STOPS RANTING THE SAME “YOUR WING CHUN SUCKS BECAUSE YOU CAN’T MAKE IT WORK THE WAY I’VE LEARNED TO”…
…“BECAUSE I TRAIN REALISTICALLY WITH PROVEN FIGHTERS AND YOU DON’T”.
I mean, really…just who is he kidding? Well quite frankly, it seems as though he is kidding a number of people still - because of A and B listed above.
Get the clue, guys…
No, Victor, your WCK sucks because you can’t do in quality fighting what you train to do as you train to do it. Anyone can see from your video that you can’t make your WCK work.
