Hi all,
Just wanted to get some ideas on conditioning excersises....
I’m familiar with knocking arms, can people advise me with some more that are commonly used? If there are any pics or vids that would be great.
Thanks!
Hitting 3 stars:
- Keep your body loose and let your body to pull your arm.
- Keep your hands open and loose.
- Try to hit on different spots of your arm.
- Hit 60 times daily will be a good number.
[QUOTE=bigopen;1227990]Hi all,
Just wanted to get some ideas on conditioning excersises....
I’m familiar with knocking arms, can people advise me with some more that are commonly used? If there are any pics or vids that would be great.
Thanks![/QUOTE]
Hi Bigopen,
I take it you mean general conditioning (i.e. toughening exercises), not just arms.
Rolls and basic breakfalls are an excellent form of conditioning - but need to be taken step by step to avoid injury.
Thighs are an important area to condition - most people can’t take even one proper kick to the thigh. If you get a couple of 1kg bags of rice, put them inside a couple of black binbags, and put them inside a hessian sack, then tie the sack up with an old martial arts belt, you can use this to start to toughen thighs. It will only take you so far but is a good start. However, I’m not recommending it because any blow to the thigh might cause a clot - I’m just sharing what I do. Also, if you are a gent, you have to cup your privates because it is easy to accidentally hit them. This is not a good look if anyone walks in on you doing it.
Another exercise is to use a heavy bag to swing in to you as a basic exercise. If you have a trustworthy training partner, you can get gloves on and cover up and get them to throw light shots at you - then you can tell them how much more power to use to build up your ability to take hits - though, you can’t toughen your brain so beware head toughening!
The last two body strikes before the kicks can be done on a heavy bag.
Time the impact for when the bag is swinging to you. Use explosive impact to bounce the bag as far away as possible.
We have an Everlast 80lb bag.
People complain that the sand settles at the bottom on those and makes the bag too hard.
We use the hard part for our kicks for shin conditioning.
Some other conditioning is to take turns kicking each other in the ribs, thighs, and shins.
ask your teacher.
if you dont have a teacher, find one.
if your teacher refuses to show you more, leave and find new teacher.
[QUOTE=bawang;1228016]ask your teacher.
if you dont have a teacher, find one.
if your teacher refuses to show you more, leave and find new teacher.[/QUOTE]
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C: Ask your Sifu.
D: Ask your coach.
E: Ask your Sensei.
F: Find yourself a school.
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Well, for the rib kicking that we did for Golden Bell Cover, it’s best for the teacher to show you. It’s not just smashing the ribs.
stand about two feet away from each other [neutral stance]. your partner will start by throwing a half speed round house kick with his left leg to your right thigh. you block the kick by lifting your right leg up to the side,blocking with the shin. your partner then throws a half speed round house kick with his right leg to your left thigh,you lift your left leg blocking with your shin. shin to shin contact for the kicker and defender. do ten reps then switch.[shin conditioning drill]switch roles. you become the kicker 10 reps a set.
stand about a foot and a half from your partner,neutral stance,feet about shoulder width apart. turn your bodies at the same time ,with some force . strike your right front part of your shoulder and chest muscle with his front part of his right shoulder and chest muscle. then switch to left side. do ten reps each set. [body conditioning exercise]
stand about two feet away from each other [neutral stance]. your partner will start by throwing a half speed round house kick with his left leg to your right thigh. you block the kick by lifting your right leg up to the side,blocking with the shin. your partner then throws a half speed round house kick with his right leg to your left thigh,you lift your left leg blocking with your shin. shin to shin contact for the kicker and defender. do ten reps then switch.[shin conditioning drill]switch roles. you become the kicker 10 reps a set.
stand about a foot and a half from your partner,neutral stance,feet about shoulder width apart. turn your bodies at the same time ,with some force . strike your right front part of your shoulder and chest muscle with his front part of his right shoulder and chest muscle. then switch to left side. do ten reps each set. [body conditioning exercise]
It’s in the print mag.
See my article Three Traditional Partner Drills in the Shaolin Special 2012.
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because iron arm training done wrong will cripple you.
[QUOTE=bawang;1228084]because iron arm training done wrong will cripple you.[/QUOTE]
A punch on the head done wrong can kill you too.
[QUOTE=YouKnowWho;1228094]A punch on the head done wrong can kill you too.[/QUOTE]
this guy is not discussing or asking questions. hes asking for online kung fu instruction.
True…
[QUOTE=YouKnowWho;1228094]A punch on the head done wrong can kill you too.[/QUOTE]
http://www.latimes.com/sports/sportsnow/la-sp-sn-punched-ref-dies-20130506,0,6499652.story
Okay, thanks guys.
I am just looking for ideas as that whole area is not really covered as openly as forms and other drills.
I’m familiar with knocking arms, and I just wanted to ask if there are any other drills which are commonly used.
Of course it’s easy to harden up parts of the body but I like a pinch of culture to my training. Otherwise I could just go around drinking protein shakes and wearing affliction T shirts so that it wouldn’t matter whether my arms were hard or not!
Anyway if anyone knows a traditional shaolin conditioning drill, and the name of (in chinese and eng) aside from knocking arms, let me know.
Thanks
And Gene I actually have that mag so will look at that, thanks.
fwiw, "knocking arms is not the proper term.
It is more commonly referred to as “sam sing” () or three stars.
Also is Ng Sing (5) Chut Sing (7) Gao sing (9) (all terms in canto).
there is also body striking with long canvas filled with beans and other materials.
Self striking of the body and some of the conditioning exercises look exactly the same, but one type works bone and the other the bulk of muscle.
It is a slow build up over time that allows someone to take incoming strike and recover quickly after having spent time adjusting to how the body works when hit and so on and so forth.
There are many materials available. It is typical of sil lum training to experience this early on in training and it is a hallmark of Hung Kuen training (the three star blocking).
Iron body exercises are becoming more available. But in my opinion, there is no substitute for a Sifu who actually has learned the traditional method.