I baited someone with it once. Walked right into it. SUCKA!
I usually just go Grimlock when fighting. Works out great. Never once used a poon kiu, sow choi, or fu jau…
KF is a hobby for me… and that’s it.
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Never once used a poon kiu, sow choi, or fu jau…
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sounds like my local chinese place’s menu
[QUOTE=lkfmdc;1095936]the problem, endemic to TCMA, is taking a mere moment in a real situation and turning it into a static posture. “Assuming” an empty stance is the same thing as posing a punch. It never happens that way in real life[/QUOTE]
Seems like Diu Mah is the most “dead” and posed of the traditional stances. It’s really just to get you to learn to shift your weight to the back leg when appropriate.
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Seems like Diu Mah is the most “dead” and posed of the traditional stances.
This is not an accurate comment. In your old school or current one it may be a dead stance,but, not in mine.
[QUOTE=hskwarrior;1095974]This is not an accurate comment. In your old school or current one it may be a dead stance,but, not in mine.[/QUOTE]
says the man who a few posts back said they never actually use the stance :rolleyes:
says the man who a few posts back said they never actually use the stance
Was a specific use for the Diu Mah mentioned? hmmmmm…that would be a NEGATORY!!! NADDA…Wala Yan.
Do i use it as a fighting stance? NO. Do i use it evasively? YES.
Now where are going with this?
[QUOTE=lkfmdc;1095962]sounds like my local chinese place’s menu[/QUOTE]
you eat at this place?? this explains some things…
If you have 0% weight on the lead foot, then it’s just a retarded Crane stance, as if Crane stances could get any more retarded.
Thats what i mentioned earlier maybe like 2 % on the tip toe. This way if someone does make contact with your foot while you go into Diu Mah the weight will be on the back leg so you won’t fall or lose alot of balance.
[QUOTE=hskwarrior;1095896]Our Diu Mah is basically 98/99% on the back and 1-2 % on the front. we do it this way to evade a front leg sweep. (one of the reasons)[/QUOTE]
How in the HELL do you estimate 1-2% of your body weight? You can’t even have your leg naturally rest on the floor and accomplish that. And you sure as hell can’t estimate it without equipment.
I am feisty today. Work with me. Taliban are REALLY ****ing me off.
[QUOTE=lkfmdc;1095936]the problem, endemic to TCMA, is taking a mere moment in a real situation and turning it into a static posture. “Assuming” an empty stance is the same thing as posing a punch. It never happens that way in real life[/QUOTE]
Agree 100% here. The day that you have just realized that “there exist no stance” but a quit body advance/retreat/rotation/bending/ …, you have just moved into a higher level. The stance is the beginner level training. It helps you to understand your weight distributation. After you have completed that training, the (Zuo Oan Bu) - twisting stance (stealing step) no longer exist but a quick body spinning. The only way that you can achieve “lighting speed” is to understand that, “There exist no stance”.
How in the HELL do you estimate 1-2% of your body weight? You can’t even have your leg naturally rest on the floor and accomplish that. And you sure as hell can’t estimate it without equipment.
Scientifically speaking? who knows? What i DO know is that the MAJORITY of my weight will sit on the back leg and just the tip of my toe touches the ground.
Do you know of anyone who has used equipment to gauge how much weight is being distributed in any stance? if so, what instrument did you use? what gung fu schools do that?
The description of 98% on the back leg and 2% on the front foot is not that hard to comprehend. one would have to be pretty fekkin dense not to understand that 98% means most but not all of your weight is on the back leg and very very little on the front. so you give 2% as an indication of how much weight to put on the front foot.
Will it affect you in an adverse way if you use 3%? 4%? 5%? NO, not at all. LOL
This is the first time i’d ever heard an argument over weight distribution and how its not properly gauged without the proper instruments to tell you how much percentage is being used.
The only way that you can achieve “lighting speed” is to understand that, "There exist no stance
will you ever achieve this without training? i mean a total newbie who never learned martial arts before. will he understand it how you do in the beginning of his own martial path?
[QUOTE=hskwarrior;1095993]will you ever achieve this without training? i mean a total newbie who never learned martial arts before. will he understand it how you do in the beginning of his own martial path?[/QUOTE]
You have to go through the elementary school but you just can’t stay in elementary school forever and refuse to move into high school. That was what lkfmdc trying to say.
This concept is very important in TCMA. Unfortunately many teacher just didn’t make this clear to his students. When you see an 80 years old Taiji master stilll demonstrates Taiji push hands, you start to wonder, “Why does this 80 old man still demonstrate the elementary school material? Should he work on kick, punch, lock, throw integration instead?”
You have to go through the elementary school but you just can’t stay in elementary school forever and refuse to move into high school. That was what trying to say.
Exactly. That kind of knowledge is a result of your own path. Guide the newbies in a structured fashion and always open their eyes to other possibilities. You can describe all the glory of running a marathon to an infant but it won’t just get up and started running because you mentioned it. you have to crawl before you walk.
[QUOTE=hskwarrior;1095998]Exactly. That kind of knowledge is a result of your own path. Guide the newbies in a structured fashion and always open their eyes to other possibilities. You can describe all the glory of running a marathon to an infant but it won’t just get up and started running because you mentioned it. you have to crawl before you walk.[/QUOTE]
This was also the problem that Bruce Lee had. He came from TCMA training but his JKD does not inherit TCMA basic training. I don’t believe to start from the high school without the elementary school is a good idea even if the elementary school training is not fun.
This was also the problem that Bruce Lee had. He came from TCMA training but his JKD does not inherit TCMA basic training. I don’t believe to start from the high school without the elementary school is a good idea even if the elementary school training is not fun.
yeah i also felt that bruce was enlightened only after his path was complete. but even HE had to walk that path to gain the knowledge he gained. i feel that is where he went wrong with trying to teach. he wanted them to be college students without ever going to school before.
[QUOTE=hskwarrior;1096005] he wanted them to be college students without ever going to school before.[/QUOTE]
The same problem also exist in the Chinese wrestling. Some students don’t like to train solo drills or equipment training. They only like to wrestle. They may have good wrestling skill against average opponents. Since their basic are weak, they may have problem with strong opponents. On the other extream, some students love to work on the solo drills and equipment training but not much in wrestling. They may have excellent foundation, but since they don’t have enough wrestling experience, they may even have problem to deal with beginners.
You don’t have to make “A” on all courses before gradulate from your elementary school. To spend all your life in elementary school is silly IMO.