A friend of mine wants to teach me the Chen 38 ( Since I have no patience for the 108 I guess, LOL !).
Thoughts?
Maybe I should start with the 19 ?
[QUOTE=sanjuro_ronin;1177411]A friend of mine wants to teach me the Chen 38 ( Since I have no patience for the 108 I guess, LOL !).
Thoughts?
Maybe I should start with the 19 ?[/QUOTE]
It’s 18…and for me that’s enough for now and has been for a few years already. Definitely good to learn some though. Learn some of the silk reeling too.
the 76 long form is divided into four parts. the sequence is pretty important because one move sets up the next. why dont you ask your friend to teach you the first section?
the first section is pound mortar, salute (tie coat), seal and close, single whip, pound mortar. beginners can repeat this in four directions, called “four gates boxing”
[QUOTE=bawang;1177494]the 76 long form is divided into four parts. the sequence is pretty important because one move sets up the next. why dont you ask your friend to teach you the first section?
the first section is pound mortar, salute (tie coat), seal and close, single whip, pound mortar. beginners can repeat this in four directions, called “four gates boxing”[/QUOTE]
38 looks long enough !
LOL !
It’s 18…and for me that’s enough for now and has been for a few years already. Definitely good to learn some though. Learn some of the silk reeling too.
Thanks, 18, LOL !
I already picked up the silk reeling years ago but I was curious for a form to even out my “hard” stuff.
Sure I can always do the Iron wire in a “soft way” like some do, but I though a taiji form would be nice to know too.
[QUOTE=sanjuro_ronin;1177501]38 looks long enough !
LOL !
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no man, just 5 moves. (i said 76 because chen style doesnt have 108)
i will send you speshul secrit video
[QUOTE=bawang;1177502]no man, just 5 moves. (i said 76 because chen style doesnt have 108)
i will send you speshul secrit video[/QUOTE]
Cool and I though Chen did have a 108 form, the old chen…no?
Chen 19
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5qNPs8kMhqw&feature=related
[QUOTE=sanjuro_ronin;1177501]38 looks long enough !
LOL !
Thanks, 18, LOL !
I already picked up the silk reeling years ago but I was curious for a form to even out my “hard” stuff.
Sure I can always do the Iron wire in a “soft way” like some do, but I though a taiji form would be nice to know too.[/QUOTE]
I think it’s great compliment to other MA. Practicing taiji makes all your other skills better ('course like anything else, it’s largely about the teacher). Still only want it to be a small part of my practice, at least for the next 20 years or so.
There are very few standardized Chen forms since there is no real body overseeing it unlike the Yang style. So, you see lots of variations in the number counts of moves in the Chen forms. About the only standardized Chen form is the competition 56 move form which uh…takes a little bit to complete 
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Thanks, 18, LOL !
I already picked up the silk reeling years ago but I was curious for a form to even out my “hard” stuff.
Sure I can always do the Iron wire in a “soft way” like some do, but I though a taiji form would be nice to know too.[/QUOTE]
hellos, i found video of random guy on internet doing chen tai chi. i no know who it is. but he looks the very seksy with the big muskles.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tiZU8LllOH8
its the beginning section of the long form, your friend can show ou exact details. it should be easy for you to learn. four techniques, four directions.
[QUOTE=bawang;1177542]hellos, i found video of random guy on internet doing chen tai chi. i no know who it is. but he looks the very seksy with the big muskles.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tiZU8LllOH8
its the beginning section of the long form, your friend can show ou exact details. it should be easy for you to learn. four techniques, four directions.[/QUOTE]
Good work dude.
Thanks for the info.
[QUOTE=bawang;1177542]hellos, i found video of random guy on internet doing chen tai chi. i no know who it is. but he looks the very seksy with the big muskles.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tiZU8LllOH8[/QUOTE]
“His needs were few, his room was bare…”
[QUOTE=bawang;1177542]hellos, i found video of random guy on internet doing chen tai chi. i no know who it is. but he looks the very seksy with the big muskles.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tiZU8LllOH8[/QUOTE]
“His needs were few, his room was bare…”
[QUOTE=taai gihk yahn;1177625]“His needs were few, his room was bare…”[/QUOTE]
And he still hasn’t unpacked!
I have condensed the 108 moves long Taiji form into 48 moves. There are a lot of redundent that you can take out.
[QUOTE=YouKnowWho;1177697]I have condensed the 108 moves long Taiji form into 48 moves. There are a lot of redundent that you can take out.[/QUOTE]
why bother? if u r practicing the form from a Taoist alchemical cultivation perspective, you shouldn’t do that, because the sequence, including the redundancies, are important; OTOH, if u r practicing just the moves as such from a combat application perspective, then I think that it makes more sense just to take them individually, and train them like line-basics (before going to partnered practice, of course)
[QUOTE=Scott R. Brown;1177646]And he still hasn’t unpacked![/QUOTE]
well, I mean, can u blame him?
[QUOTE=sanjuro_ronin;1177411]A friend of mine wants to teach me the Chen 38 ( Since I have no patience for the 108 I guess, LOL !).
Thoughts?
Maybe I should start with the 19 ?[/QUOTE]
And here comes the silk pajamas!!!
[QUOTE=Brule;1177704]And here comes the silk pajamas!!![/QUOTE]
hey, SJ promised he’d only wear those for me…:mad:
Seriously, could you imagine your shame trying to explain how you got your ass kicked fighting some old Chinese dude in silk pjs?
i would explain that i was trying to make the rape to him, and did not want to damage him.
[QUOTE=taai gihk yahn;1177699]why bother? if u r practicing the form from a Taoist alchemical cultivation perspective, you shouldn’t do that, because the sequence, including the redundancies, are important; OTOH, if u r practicing just the moves as such from a combat application perspective, then I think that it makes more sense just to take them individually, and train them like line-basics (before going to partnered practice, of course)[/QUOTE]
right on mang.
the modern forms they are put together to look good. the traditional sequences have esoteric meaning and cultural value.