if i have long hair, i would tie it into a braid like a powerful mongol warrior. and id wear those thin hun rapist mustaches.
[QUOTE=Eric_H;1121523]Hey guys,
I need a bit of a headcheck to see if I have a point or am simply developing in to a crotchety old kung fu dude.
That’s the problem when we get old geyser.
Am I in the right or wrong to call BS when I see it? Or should I simply let things go as “caveat emptor?”[/QUOTE]
Do not worry and let it go and if that still bugs you, go to the school either yourself or with your students and test their abilities to show them how good he is in martial arts. Don’t you remember old days when schools will fight to show style supremacy
[QUOTE=SPJ;1121676]yes. need a better hair style.
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LOL!
Pretty pants tho. 
Eric didnt I see you at that shaolin school wearing a karate gi that said assistant shaolin kung fu master? by the way your itf tkd form looked excellent. i think they should now add on the camo karate belts to make it complete
such is the life
if there is one real thing, there will be many and many copycats.
as long as the students know that they are copying shaolin, and not really learning from shaolin
–
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v7gV5C5mB7A
the real deal
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oDbAxhV2ofM&feature=related
cute little copykitten
That was cool, gonna watch it again:D
I couldn’t really see the outfit she was modeling.
I could see the frog buttons though.
Black background while modelling a black tai chi uniform.
Maybe it was her cameraman who didn’t have the experience?
the Voguing was cool though.
[QUOTE=Eric_H;1121523]Hey guys,
I need a bit of a headcheck to see if I have a point or am simply developing in to a crotchety old kung fu dude.
There’s a school in my neighborhood that teaches (IMO) some pretty BS “shaolin” kung fu that is a pretty big joke. Talking to former students the teacher learns a form from a videotape and then teaches that to his students. Barely any combat skill, apparently they do some very light TKD-style sparring.
Recently, they’ve been advertising around various forums and I’ve found it necessary to counter their ads that they teach “authentic shaolin kung fu” or “self defense.” I think it’s morally wrong to teach somebody a bunch of nonsense and claim it has any veracity to actual combat skill.
Additionally to teach “flowery hands” type of kung fu cheapens the reputation of kung fu as a whole - so what they’re doing makes what I, and the other reputable teachers in my area do look worse because we get lumped together with them as Kung Fu people.
Am I in the right or wrong to call BS when I see it? Or should I simply let things go as “caveat emptor?”[/QUOTE]
Do you want to defend the honor of Kung Fu? Try this, open a school (if you haven’t already) teach authentic Kung Fu techniques and methods that produce good KUNG FU FIGHTERS, ala Sanda, Kickboxing, Shuai Jiao, or even those who can compete in MMA. Get your reputation out there as a traditional Kung Fu school that actually produces fighters winning competitions or at the very least can spar hard and compete with the best of them.
Than, low and behold, when people ask you what you teach, you tell them Kung Fu. They will have a puzzled look, “Kung Fu, I heard it does not train you to be a good fighter?” To which you respond, “That may be true in some cases, but it is not the style of Kung Fu but the teacher and their lack of knowledge.”
This, more than anything else will restore respect and honor to Kung Fu, much more than being a “crothety old Kung Fu guy” who ********es and moans like an 80 year old woman!
[QUOTE=Iron_Eagle_76;1122276]Do you want to defend the honor of Kung Fu? Try this, open a school (if you haven’t already) teach authentic Kung Fu techniques and methods that produce good KUNG FU FIGHTERS, ala Sanda, Kickboxing, Shuai Jiao, or even those who can compete in MMA. Get your reputation out there as a traditional Kung Fu school that actually produces fighters winning competitions or at the very least can spar hard and compete with the best of them.[/QUOTE]
Come on, you think that would work?
[QUOTE=Snipsky;1121688]about that filipina fraud…
check this out. she attaches TAI CHI to this…
i’m still waiting to see where the tai chi is…i hate frauds. especially THIS fraud…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mLo0COvu4Y4[/QUOTE]
“Dance expression” it says? How 'bout some facial expression?!
My take on this topic,
It’s an endless battle, best not to get started. As you can see, everyone has a fraud nearby. They are everywhere.
Unless the one in your area is directly affecting you, or your lineage or something, I’d let it go.
I even have one in my city who claims to be a disciple of my master, looked me in the eye and said it. I’ve let it go for now. Haven’t discussed it yet with the master. :rolleyes:
[QUOTE=Snipsky;1121688]about that filipina fraud…
check this out. she attaches TAI CHI to this…
i’m still waiting to see where the tai chi is…i hate frauds. especially THIS fraud…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mLo0COvu4Y4[/QUOTE]
Tai Chi means “Grand Ultimate”. It a descriptive term that is not limited to the martial arts descended from Zhao Bao and Chen villages.
I don’t have anything to say about that lady’s form, except she must have used the same posture about 50 times. But her website? She needs to just put it up in Tagalog or Basai or whatever her native language is, because english is not her friend. It was like she originally wrote it in chinese and then used babelfish to translate, then post it as is on the web. It was worse than reading any bawang post ever.
There are far larger problems to be called out over and above crappy martial arts schools.
[QUOTE=EarthDragon;1121656]I say call a spade a spade, I have no problem calling out frauds.
In the old days before you could open a school in a village/town you had to fight the teacher of the exsisitntg school.
If your skill was not good enough you were not allow to open nor teach in that village/town. I see no reason why this should not still be this way. If you cant put up then close up.[/QUOTE]
Because this is America not 18th century China. “Shaolin” nor “kung fu” are trademarked. Therefore if someone wants to use the terms to describe their business it is their God given right. I may not agree with the way that these people conduct business and I may believe that they are fraudulent in their teachings but I believe more in their American freedom to do so that 3 generations of my family has served to protect.
Sometimes gentlemen I think traditional teachers get too caught up in the “traditions.” They try to live in a time and culture that’s not even theirs.
[QUOTE=Shaolin;1153557]Because this is America not 18th century China. “Shaolin” nor “kung fu” are trademarked. Therefore if someone wants to use the terms to describe their business it is their God given right. I may not agree with the way that these people conduct business and I may believe that they are fraudulent in their teachings but I believe more in their American freedom to do so that 3 generations of my family has served to protect.
Sometimes gentlemen I think traditional teachers get too caught up in the “traditions.” They try to live in a time and culture that’s not even theirs.[/QUOTE]
Well, it’s not even that sometimes. It is often people living inside their heads creating these delusions that leads to an outward expression that is regarded as absurd by those in the know whom the person is co-opting names from and as artful by the ignorant.
This is served by overinflated egos. There is a lot of that among people who think much of themselves yet have little to offer of any great value to the world.
So, when you’re that untalented because you lack ability to take on the role of student long enough to get to master, you wind up with absurdity after absurdity and people who in essence are just desperate for attention.
Oh well, that too shall pass.
tell people the truth
or what is what.
my stuff is from my teacher, and my teacher stuff is from his teacher etc etc.
for example, shaolin yi jing ying and shaolin jin gang ba shi were incorporated into ba ji boxing, these are from shaolin. they are indeed from shaolin.
the original ba ji teachers were traced to travelling daoist monks. so some of the stuff were from daoist origins, etc.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AyaTIXdN5fI&feature=share
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=brXcgGsCtN4&feature=share
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nThEQw8J6Uc&feature=share
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1sBzXeRybSo&feature=related
the tune was original russian.
in french
in english
no problems.
but the tune was from russia.
tell people what your stuff is from where and what.
calling beethoven music beethoven
calling mozart music mozart.
that is.
[QUOTE=Eric_H;1121523]Hey guys,
I need a bit of a headcheck to see if I have a point or am simply developing in to a crotchety old kung fu dude.
There’s a school in my neighborhood that teaches (IMO) some pretty BS “shaolin” kung fu that is a pretty big joke. [/QUOTE]
what shaolin kung fu isnt BS?
mine flex
I have to admit I use to worry about things like that, but have long since come to the conclusion that there will always be a screw u fu school somewhere close by and most of them will be short lived.
Rather than concern with the actions of others, you might try simply sharing your own knowledge (assuming you are in a position to do so) and let common sense do the rest, , , , , , , 