Calling BS When you see it

Break their signs

[QUOTE=Snipsky;1121688]about that filipina fraud…[/QUOTE] Wow. That’s some impressive forum fu, Snipsky. Impressive indeed.

I’ve had more than a few kung fu brothers who enjoyed challenging fake schools to break their signs. That’s some old school punkass tong style for ya. Obviously I don’t endorse that. :wink:

Ultimately, I’ve never been one to judge other people’s practice. They say that’s how you lose the way. It’s ironic as I’m in a position where I’m always sorting wheat from chaff. Of course, that’s a totally different situation. There’s a fake school near my wife’s office. I pass it regularly and always peak in, just out of curiosity.

For the most part, there’s so much interesting stuff to focus upon that I do my best not to waste time with fakes. I don’t let the negative suck me down.

worry about yourself and how you train. They will be exposed for what they are eventually.

Challenge their “Master”, beat him up some, kick him out, take over the school, charge the students 50% more for real kungfu, have the female students take turns bringing you Chinese take-out from the proceeds. Remodel. :slight_smile: http://www.google.com/search?q=pictures+of+chinese+carry+out,+take+out,+food&hl=en&client=firefox-a&hs=ZH9&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&prmd=imvns&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=bEMaT43DB-jq0gGxxOTYCw&ved=0CEEQsAQ&biw=1440&bih=749

People with no experience teaching MA…

Do what you think and feel is right. I’m new to the Bay Area and trying to start a school but it’s hard when you tell and show people the right ways to use an art for street and comps and people are programed to think that their teacher taught them the right way it gets frustrating because I helped a Taekwondo practitioner with his kicking skills because his teacher taught him to stay in a box drawn on the floor and told him to not let his foot go pass the box. That was it, the teacher didn’t show him the mechanics of throwing a proper kick and how not to hurt yourself, hd just told the kid to kick. When I showed the proper way to the kid he didn’t believe me. So I made a wager that if he tried the way I showed him to kick at his next comp I will pay for a new uniform and gear, because he needed some. He went the comp and won with the kick I showed him and was mad to find out that the teacher really had not shown him anything but how to win comps to bring popularity to the schools name so they can make more money.

I believe that you should not be teaching unless you have used your art in real combat situations or at least have been tested for a year. If you had a choice to learn from a guy that graduated from school in medicine or a guy that not only graduated but had expierence in using medicine, which would you choose? Unfortunately there are too many graduates with no experience teaching Martial Arts.

I believe that you should not be teaching unless you have used your art in real combat situations or at least have been tested for a year.

So…tested for a year is = real combat?

I personally don’t think so, here’s why.

All training is just training and by that merit is conducted in an environment that is safe physically and mentally. Not to say that injury can’t occur because it can, but everyone involved is “feeling” safe and therefore reality is never generated in a training environment.

Someone who has engaged in real combat isn’t necessarily a good teacher either. In fact, that aspect is pretty irrelevant in context to martial arts methods which I don’t think I need to remind anyone is not rocket science.

It’s not complicated to learn structure and power and all that without every actually fighting. What isn’t learned is guts. In my opinion, you either got em, or your don’t and I can point at a gorrillion examples of why this is more probable and true than not.

training is JUST training. It’s preparation for something that may never happen and if you’re into sports, then it is still safe and in a sports framework.

You cannot train towards someone picking you off with a rifle from a rooftop. Put it out of your head that you can. NO training makes you superior to ANYONE, ever. A small child can take you out by accident in worst case scenario.

There is a lot of crap talk among martial artists. A lot of chest thumping, a lot of ego driven noise. Train an art because it is interesting and you enjoy it. It’s better to train than not, but it is never a guarantee of anything and a wise person can learn a lot from an idiot whereas the other way round? Not so much.

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[QUOTE=David Jamieson;1154419]So…tested for a year is = real combat?

I personally don’t think so, here’s why.

All training is just training and by that merit is conducted in an environment that is safe physically and mentally. Not to say that injury can’t occur because it can, but everyone involved is “feeling” safe and therefore reality is never generated in a training environment.

Someone who has engaged in real combat isn’t necessarily a good teacher either. In fact, that aspect is pretty irrelevant in context to martial arts methods which I don’t think I need to remind anyone is not rocket science.

It’s not complicated to learn structure and power and all that without every actually fighting. What isn’t learned is guts. In my opinion, you either got em, or your don’t and I can point at a gorrillion examples of why this is more probable and true than not.

training is JUST training. It’s preparation for something that may never happen and if you’re into sports, then it is still safe and in a sports framework.

You cannot train towards someone picking you off with a rifle from a rooftop. Put it out of your head that you can. NO training makes you superior to ANYONE, ever. A small child can take you out by accident in worst case scenario.

There is a lot of crap talk among martial artists. A lot of chest thumping, a lot of ego driven noise. Train an art because it is interesting and you enjoy it. It’s better to train than not, but it is never a guarantee of anything and a wise person can learn a lot from an idiot whereas the other way round? Not so much.

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Agreed.

I would also point out that, if you go around getting into street fights in order to test your art out, even if you’re successful, the chances of someone coming back on you with firepower is immense. In other words, it ain’t necessarily over when it’s over. The cemeteries are full of big, tough fighters whose luck ran out.

And Bella Karoli should stop pretending he knows how to teach little girls how to be Olympic champions until he can perform a double back sommersault with a half twist off of a 4" wide piece of wood 4’ off the ground!

The nerve of some people…thinking they can teach others something they have never done themselves!!!

[quote=scott r. Brown;1154576]and bella karoli should stop pretending he knows how to teach little girls how to be olympic champions until he can perform a double back sommersault with a half twist off of a 4" wide piece of wood 4’ off the ground!

The nerve of some people…thinking they can teach others something they have never done themselves!!![/quote]

bbwwaahhhhh !!!

Yeah, screw that guy and his dive team!

marches with fist in the air