lol! I’m actually a huge goof ball and am usually cracking people up. New people I meet are usually surprised if biology, biomechanics, technology, philosophy, physics, or whatever comes up and I own them. 
I come off like a cross between a jock/adrenaline junkie/goof ball.
Actually you come across as a Twat, who uses three words when he only needs one.
I was talking about real life. Like I said, I was trying to help. You came off as uninformed, which made me use a thourough explanation, so the explanation itself didn’t give you more questions. Call names all you want. It doesn’t change the fact that I am right and you are wrong.
Neener neener neener.
haha! j/k Seriously if you have any sort of evidence to the contrary, I’d be happy to see it. It isn’t about being right. It’s about trying to stop misinformation. If you think I’m wrong, prove it. Pretty simple.
Dayum. Ford Prefect just sprayed the correct all over this thread, and on manofkent’s shoes.
Frikkin awesome.
As an aside, the msot reps I do for abs in a given set is 6. 5, though, is the average.
Vash, what ab excercises do you do?
This cycle, I’m doing weighted crunches on a slanted board (5x5), Hanging Knee Raises (5x5) and Weighted Swiss Ball Crunches (5x5).
Rest period between sets?
Lol @ this thread! Nice, Ford, nice. You control your aggression much better than I would.
manofkent, you should shut up and listen - you might learn something. First lesson: don’t listen to the “gym instructor”, he doesn’t know what he’s talking about.
Originally posted by FngSaiYuk
Rest period between sets?
30-60 seconds. 2 Minutes between each station.
kewl, tnx!
Well done, Ford.
What Ford wrote on the first page is better info than you would get from 99% of “exercise books” out there.
manofkent, abdominal definition, or any muscle’s definition for that matter, is entirely a function of how low someone’s bodyfat is, assuming the muscle is developed enough to be seen in the first place. It has nothing to do with high reps or low reps or heavy weights or light weights.
Everyone has a six pack, it’s just that most people’s are hidden under fat.
manofkent wrote:
High reps work! They work for me and everyone i know.
High reps work at building endurance in that exercise. Just because you do high reps and you have visible muscles does not mean the high reps caused the visible muscles. This is just like how if you wear a blue shirt and then it rains that day, it’s not raining because you wore the blue shirt.
There are a few guys at a bodybuilding gym ive been to and they do hevily wieghted crunches.
So do a lot of gymnasts, powerlifters, and boxers.
There bellies look huge and they look fat under a t-shirt, but when they tense it all ripples up in to a massive 6 pack that actually juts out from the rib cage.
As Ford said, growth hormone use can cause the organs to expand and push the stomach out. Also, hypertrophied abdominal muscles can stick out, too.
The thing that no one has really addressed here is that gaining size has a lot to do with diet. Regardless of how your training program is, you’re not going to grow if you don’t eat enough. Just another factor to throw out there.
How am i supposed to know my gym instructer is wrong???
If you walk in to a gym and dont know any better then u take the guys word for it, he’s the one with the qualification!
Oh well, Im sorry, and will try to talk to hima bout what ur saying. Perhaps the gym instructers dont push you to do the more risky exersises and get u to do the easy, more rounded ones for safety.
Originally posted by manofkent
How am i supposed to know my gym instructer is wrong???
Do independent research.
Originally posted by manofkent
If you walk in to a gym and dont know any better then u take the guys word for it, he’s the one with the qualification!
But what results does he have? Who does he train? Do these results match your targets? I’ll wager a 30-50yr old housewife will be his average client*.
Originally posted by manofkent
Oh well, Im sorry, and will try to talk to hima bout what ur saying. Perhaps the gym instructers dont push you to do the more risky exersises and get u to do the easy, more rounded ones for safety.
Maybe. Or maybe they just do whatever exercises the market wants (i.e. the latest circuit craze). You’re partly right - a lot of gyms will actively discourage heavy weights and innovative training methods being used. If you don’t do exactly what they expect, they get nervous. E.g. I think Ford or someone once said their gym didn’t like someone bringing chains in with them (or maybe that was in an article I read). That’s not to say heavy and innovative == dangerous - you just have to know what you’re doing. It’s probably more dangerous than 30 pushups on a swiss ball, though.
*By average client I mean if he does personal training. I’m sure there are knowledgeable guys who visit the gym, but most won’t be asking for help from the gym instructor.
The thing that no one has really addressed here is that gaining size has a lot to do with diet. Regardless of how your training program is, you’re not going to grow if you don’t eat enough. Just another factor to throw out there.
Some of us are growing the wrong way, though…
Wow. Good info on this thread.
Cheers Ford for that post. 
Originally posted by manofkent
[B]How am i supposed to know my gym instructer is wrong???
If you walk in to a gym and dont know any better then u take the guys word for it, he’s the one with the qualification!
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This is an excellent point! Most people who walk into a gym off the street and then is introduced to the local “fitness expert” would take what the “expert” is saying as truth.
Very few would would question what the “expert” had to say.
Everyone doesn’t need to jump on “manofkent” here. He was simply repeating information that he was given and has worked for him.
The real problem is some of the so-called professionals in the fitness instruction industry. A lot are working with bad or out dated information, a lot simply don’t know what they’re talking about.
It’s up to all of us to arm ourselves with information and start asking more questions. Thanks to Ford for all of the information he’s presented here.
I think it’s time to layoff of “manofkent”. At this point he is probably feeling like he’s being attacked.
Thanks Chief.
But its ok, i can take it. I know i was wrong, and i dont think anyone was out of order what they’ve said to me.
I do apoligise for calling Ford a twat.
I was talking to my gym instructer today… He has been a gym instructer for 2yrs and doesnt do any free weight training himself. He was educated and certifyed by a major company, so you guy are right… The gym would not want him to start giving out heavy training programs.
Ive got a question on another threat, but i think it old and no1s replyed…
I dont have the time or money to eat high protien meals after a every workout, so ive been using a natural whey protien. Problem is, it made me put on fat when i had 2 shakes a day. so now i just have one after a heavy weight work out (3times a week) and no other time. Is this a good idea or is there a better way of doing it???
I do upper body weights and core muscles on day 1 (PROTIEN SHAKE)
lower body weight and cardio work on day 2
Tai-chi only on day 3
one after your workout is fine. Play around with it and see if you can achieve whatever your desired effect is. What’s your goal again? Do you want to gain weight, lose weight, gain strength, gain endurance, etc.? How would you prioritize your goals?
No worries. I would have been defensive in your situation too. That’s why I didn’t say anything. Just ribbed ya a little.
Kind of a complicated question you asked. What does you exact diet look like? List your typicals meals throughout the day and when you workout.
i’ll have to go in to detail tomo.
priorities in order.
1 strength
2 body shape (thus want fat% down)
3 heart rate down