another lineage of Wing Chun that is still closed door.
I can believe this lineage would have been closed door up until recently, my own lineage opened doors to westerners as late as 1981. http://www.martialtalk.com/forum/showthread.php/100529-About-Snake-Crane-Wing-Chun-(-蛇鶴詠春-)
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uN1e_SvP3dQ
[QUOTE=stonecrusher69;1213602]another lineage of Wing Chun that is still closed door.
door..http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fm6WAImqlwQ[/QUOTE]
Um… how can the door still be closed if a Westerner is showing a form set on YouTube? :)
If by westerners you mean non Chinese, then my own lineage is still closed door. Anyone that was ever taught had to make an oath never to teach it outside their own race.
[QUOTE=PalmStriker;1213620]Um… how can the door still be closed if a Westerner is showing a form set on YouTube? :):)[/QUOTE]
Up until NOW!!
The form looks like a linking form that combines all the sets into one.. I noticed some of the circular footwork is similiar to my lineage.
Closed door = not sharing and testing with other styles = not evolving = not functional
[QUOTE=Lee Chiang Po;1213624]If by westerners you mean non Chinese, then my own lineage is still closed door. Anyone that was ever taught had to make an oath never to teach it outside their own race.[/QUOTE] Yes. This is exactly what closed door Kungfu style lineage means in this day and age. There is a martial style in India that passes down from Master to Master with no other practitioners in one of the villages. That person watches over the village in assassin mode. In China, of course, closed door traditionally meant “family only”, like Chen Family Taiji, guarded ancient recipes of all sorts.
Banding together to protect your village from criminals is nothing new. http://www.findingdulcinea.com/news/Americas/2009/feb/Mexican-Citizens-Answer-Drug-Violence-With-Vigilante-Justice.html
[QUOTE=stonecrusher69;1213631]The form looks like a linking form that combines all the sets into one.. I noticed some of the circular footwork is similiar to my lineage.[/QUOTE] Quite possible, interesting variation for sure, thanks StoneCrusher.
Looks like he just copied it out of some books.
Who cares what the form looks like, it is what you can’t see that is important.
This guy shows it all, there is nothing else going on.
[QUOTE=Lee Chiang Po;1213624]If by westerners you mean non Chinese, then my own lineage is still closed door. Anyone that was ever taught had to make an oath never to teach it outside their own race.[/QUOTE]
That reeks of racism. 
[QUOTE=LaRoux;1213659]Closed door = not sharing and testing with other styles = not evolving = not functional[/QUOTE]
Agreed, who do they know their style works against other styles ?
[QUOTE=Robinhood;1213701]Looks like he just copied it out of some books.
Who cares what the form looks like, it is what you can’t see that is important.
This guy shows it all, there is nothing else going on.[/QUOTE] Do some research. I see a genuine Wingchun style here.
I see where you’re coming from, StoneCrusher: http://www.futsaowingchun.info/articles.html
I agree that it is racist. But none the less, I took an oath. I did once exchange with a Japanese man who taught me Jiujitsu. My dad would have likely beaten me to death if he had known what I was up to. He hated Japs. But he was Asian of sorts, right?
As for not progressing, I don’t think that even enters into it at all. I have said this before, I have not ever come up on a person trained in my own or any other lineage of Wing Chun. Ever. I have fought with people that had some karate training, some fairly good boxers, some that I have no idea what style or system they were using. I even fought a fellow that was considered to be the best Mantis fighter in New Orleans and beat him so badly I was shunned for my brutality. But then I was afraid of him. I was told he would likely kill me and I almost ran away rather than fight him. But when I did decide to do it, I was committed to destroying him instead. And I did.
I have known a number of people over the years that were just plain natural fighters and even without any formal martial training they were dangerous men in a fight and would be very difficult to fight even for a well trained fighter of any system.
[QUOTE=Phil Redmond;1213712]That reeks of racism. :([/QUOTE]
Welcome to China. 
[QUOTE=Phil Redmond;1213714]Agreed, who do they know their style works against other styles ?[/QUOTE]
Nail on the head.