Best stuff I’ve seen for taking out a recent bruise was Minyak Gosok or “Bee Brand” oil. Made a real angry forming bruise disappear within minutes.
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Somebody once told me that you should have somebody else rub a bruise out for you because you probably will not be able to rub hard enough yourself. I think this may be true if you have a brusie on your arm. Does anybody know? Thanks in advance.
Originally posted by Ai Lek Ou Seun
But you can even use rubbing alchohol if you want to.
How does that work? 
Originally posted by phantom
Somebody once told me that you should have somebody else rub a bruise out for you because you probably will not be able to rub hard enough yourself. I think this may be true if you have a brusie on your arm. Does anybody know? Thanks in advance.
it’s probably psychological. you know how much it hurts, so you don’t want to rub it hard and make it hurt more. Someone else won’t care, as it’s not them that’s bruised.
Originally posted by IronFist
How does that work?
jow is alcohol based, from what I’ve seen of it. The jow gets stronger the longer it sits in the alcohol. Maybe pure alcohol without the herbs could be used as a “poor man’s jow” or something.
rubs one out
so what type of rubs are good for iron training. is there any stuff to take internally also to heal from the inside. names and websites would be great.
I haven’t started iron training, but at my school, SD, we suppose use 3 (1 to open pores, 1 to penetrate the muscles, bones, etc and powder to be taken to heal from the inside).
If you’re doing Iron training thru SD, you should be fine with Ben Gay.
I just figured rubbing alcochol wouldn’t work without any herbs in it.
So it’s been a day and a half now and it’s still just a big red area the size of a hockey puck It hasn’t started to turn black and blue yet. Maybe it won’t 
I rubbed it with jow for like 10 minutes last night, but eventually I felt like I was using all my jow so I stopped. I rubbed it pretty hard, but not so hard I was wincing in pain. My hand still smelled like jow even through the latex glove. I guess it’s strong if it can penetrate through that. I even washed my hand with soap afterward and then it smelled like soap + jow. Hehe. This morning I touched the bruise to see how sore it was and that made my finger smell like jow. I meant to do it twice last night (once when I got home from work and once before I went to bed), but I was making food and eating so I ended up only doing it once.
I guess this is cool in a sick way: When I hit my shin and I knew I was going to get a bruise, it didn’t hurt nearly as bad as it would have a few months ago. So that’s good, right?
What happened was, my friend who was holding the Thai pads for me went to get some water and while he was gone there was this square iron(?) beam that holds up the ceiling in the gym. It’s covered with padding in case you accidently run into it. So I hit it softly twice and thought “cool, it’s pretty padded” so then I kicked it with about 40% power and found out that the padding wasn’t as tough as I thought it was. So, I pretty much kicked a square corner of a metal beam with a little padding in front of it. Ouch.
Originally posted by Water Dragon
If you’re doing Iron training thru SD, you should be fine with Ben Gay.
i might be doing iron training through another instructor and for future reference if i move.
The hair is falling off of my leg over parts of the bruise where I’ve been rubbing so hard 
People often confuse Xebby with having a Brazilian wax - really it’s all the friction :D.
Originally posted by Ai Lek Ou Seun
[B]True. It’s nice to have good jau.
But you can even use rubbing alchohol if you want to. [/B]
If the smell gets to you, you can also use a lavander oil/aloe vera mix.
I like Jow for somethings, but actually prefer a brand called Maridian. If I rubit down with LOTS imediatly, then soak in a very hot bath wile rubbing it down again followed by overnight linimant use, I will almost never have a visable bruise and injury to joints is cut way short. I sprained my ankle last thursday to the point I could barely walk on it by the end of class. By tuesday, it had heald sufficiently that I didn’t start limping in class until [Iafter[/I] doing ladder sprints then 30 minutes of breakfalls. It didn’t bug me at all untill we started the drill segment, wich involved head/sholder high roundhouse kicks.
for serious bruises i normally soak a piece of folded up towel paper or a tissue with jow then put it on the bruise and wrap a layer of saran wrap over the tissue then wrap a tensor bandage around it and leave it till the morning, hope that helps
Yeah um after I rub jow in would it do any good to wrap it with seran wrap or something? Or does it have to breathe?
Also, it will be a week tomorrow since I got it and it still hasn’t turned black and blue yet. Is it not going to? It’s just a little bit yellow this whole time. It’s still sore on the bone, and there’s a little swelling, but other than that it’s not too bad.
I just think it’s weird that it hasn’t “bruised,” per se. Do you think it’s not going to? Or is it just taking forever to bruise?
Also, on my other shin I have a cut where I hit my shin on my bedframe about a month ago. This wasn’t a training accident, I just wasn’t watching where I was going. This freaking cut is taking forever to heal I guess because it’s on a bone and so it doesn’t get a lot of blood. Do you think that’s why?
It would have by now if was going to. What youare describing is a deep tissue or bone bruise. They don’t normally turn purple. The purple ones are skin bruises. Ugly, but generally not harmful. Bad bone bruises can be very harmful if you rush the healling prosses. Deep tissue bruises are the ones that let loose clots into the blood streem, and need to be handeled with care, as well.
You guessed right about the reason the cut didn’t heal quick.
What about getting a heating pad and putting it on my shin for 20-30 minutes at a time. That would increase bloodflow, right? Would that do anything to help it heal? I know they say to ice it, but I thought icing was only good in the beginning to prevent swelling. Once it’s done swelling wouldn’t you want to apply heat to it?
I have a few smaller bruises on my other shin now that already turned red/brown and it’s only been about 12 hours since I got them. Those are being normal bruises.
The big sore spot on my right shin that didn’t change color very much feels swollen on the bone under the skin. Hehe. Oops. I’ve been massaging it every night, tho.
Yeah um after I rub jow in would it do any good to wrap it with seran wrap or something? Or does it have to breathe?
Wrapping it makes the heat more intense, but be warned, you can actually give yourself a 2nd or 3rd degree chemical burn if your not carefull. That being said, I have used plastic wrap on the very bad ones. Usually I stick to self-adhesive ace wraps, though. Heating pad is ok, too. Also less likely to get burns.
BTW, I found out why I couldn’t get the web address for Maridien. The guy who makes it (Sifu Galiano) doesn’t sell it on the internet anymore. You can likely get some via which ever Pai Lum school is closest to you, though. He also makes a first-rate red flower oil (sort of like tiger balm).