Hey guys, I was wondering if you guys knew of any places to get some reputable jow in the city? Someone gave me a good four bruises last night and I’d like something to clear them up soon. Recommendations?
I’m supposed to get a big batch soon. I’ll get you a bottle when I do. For now, I can bring some to work if you can get into the loop tomorrow.
I’m sorry man. Seriously. Was it the reap? 
I used many different kinds of jow including a recipe where it was made, and had the ingredients in it for over 25 years now. Yet I honestly don’t know if it’s the jow that has anything to do with it or the rubbing motion itself.
Anybody know of any scientific double blind tests?
Originally posted by Water Dragon
[B]I’m supposed to get a big batch soon. I’ll get you a bottle when I do. For now, I can bring some to work if you can get into the loop tomorrow.
I’m sorry man. Seriously. Was it the reap? [/B]
LOL. Don’t be sorry. That was a GREAT throw. But to answer your question, no. Not from that throw. I think I got two from Fajing on the ground work (d@mn boy grips hard), and I got two from you in the freewrestling.
All in all, a pretty good night, if you ask me.
I just wanted to grab something to clear these up before Saturday, but I’ll be perfectly alright if I can’t. Bruises are part of the turf-- if I don’t get them, it means I haven’t been training hard enough.
The Jow WD has is really good. I didn’t put any faith in the stuff prior to the first time I used it, but now, I’m begining to rethink my stance on the matter.
The problem with a double blind study though, is there’s no standardized jow recipe (at least, as I understand), so you might be missing an active ingredient. But I’d love to see somebody do a conclusive study on the matter.
there are some common ingredients but you are right
i guess get 100 different kinds and do it? 
They did sth similar a while back with “zombie potion” and the common ingredient was found to be puffer fish posion. that way they then were able to reproduce the effects in lab conditions after, slowing brain waves and heart rates. Perhaps a jow study should be next…
very good didajow in u drugstor it call BENGAY or FLEXALL 454
lol @ method man. bengay and the like do nothing for bruises.
jow been used and been around for a very long time. some jows are for different things.
for bruises there are all kinds of over the counter. You can also online order good jow from a couple of places.
The effect is a combination of the active ingredients which relieve blood stasis (build up and stagnency)and increase bloodflow, and the massage technique itself when applying the jow.
There are several ingredients you can use that have these traits and combinations of the herbs gives you both effects along with massage.
Some recipes are still pretty secret. Many quite good ones and even some great ones aren’t. Just keep looking.
cheers
Originally posted by Kung Lek
[B]lol @ method man. bengay and the like do nothing for bruises.
jow been used and been around for a very long time. some jows are for different things.
for bruises there are all kinds of over the counter. You can also online order good jow from a couple of places.
The effect is a combination of the active ingredients which relieve blood stasis (build up and stagnency)and increase bloodflow, and the massage technique itself when applying the jow.
There are several ingredients you can use that have these traits and combinations of the herbs gives you both effects along with massage.
Some recipes are still pretty secret. Many quite good ones and even some great ones aren’t. Just keep looking.
cheers [/B]
only thing good for bruis is time plus ICE no secret otherwise everybody use didajow in olympic
beside didajow lotta thng been arond long time do u drink h2o2 plus silver or what??? conman scam been arond longer than jow too
only thing good for bruis is time plus ICE no secret otherwise everybody use didajow in olympic
some people know, and some people don’t know.
athletes in the olympics use all kinds of liniments and medicines I’d wager there’s some olympian using jow.
cheers
Originally posted by Kung Lek
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some people know, and some people don’t know.
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Hello Pot. I’d like you to meet my good friend Kettle.
What do you ‘know’ wd that you think my comment is incorrect?
Do you make or use Jow?
If you did, you would know it works on speeding healing to hematoma, you would also know that ben gay does not contain the active ingredients that break up the dead blood cells which rush to the injured area to heal it and wash them away with increased blood flow to the area, which is brought on by massage and the herbs that help.
Ice helps inasmuch as it slows blood flow to the area, but it cannot breakup the mass of cells that has gathered at the site.
massage helps, but for most people it is too painful to endure without something to take care of the neuralgia (the jow if it’s good)
bruises are scars in the making beneath the skin.
if you don’t break up the scars and get rid of the stagnent blood, you will feel it when you age. To many scars under the skin can effect a person in a lot of negative ways such as decreasing their mobility or general deformation of the area if it is arounds a joint.
Standard knowledge to western and eastern healing pracs.
I’ll say it again ‘some people know and some people don’t know’
Now what was it you were saying about pots and kettles?
Originally posted by Kung Lek
Now what was it you were saying about pots and kettles?
Kung Lek, If you tell me you own 2 BullDogs, but you show me a BullDog and a Chihuahua, you don’t really have 2 Bulldogs.
On your webpage, you list a camphor based arthritis medicine as a Jow. It doesn’t matter if you have legitimate Jow as well.
Originally posted by Kung Lek
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Do you make or use Jow?
If you did, you would know it works on speeding healing to hematoma, you would also know that ben gay does not contain the active ingredients that break up the dead blood cells which rush to the injured area to heal it and wash them away with increased blood flow to the area, which is brought on by massage and the herbs that help.
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Originally posted by Crippled Avenger
The Jow WD has is really good. I didn’t put any faith in the stuff prior to the first time I used it, but now, I’m begining to rethink my stance on the matter.
Reading is Fundamental
I gave you the explain on the jows in my site as well, but yet you fixate on a point that is arguable.
the product you keep referring to is indeed a jow and is used and sold as such.
I’ll reiterate, there are many jows for many things, dit da jow blankets quite a few different ingredients and covers ever thing from aching muscle liniments to plasters for bone setting.
Are you saying tehre is only one purpose and type of jow? Because that is incorrect.
cheers
First you say that Ben Gay is not a Jow. Then you say that the Chinese equivalent is. Yes, I know that there are different jows. We use 2 in my school. We also use training wines and other medicines (which are not Jows)
Back to the BullDog example. You tell me you have 2 BullDogs. You bring your first dog out which is a nice looking BullDog. I tell you that is a nice looking BullDog.
If you bring out the next dog and it is a Chihuahua, I’m going to tell you that it’s not a Bulldog. If you tell me that there are different kinds of BullDogs, I will agree. But I will also point out that your Chihuahua ain’t one of them. If you ask me why I’m fixating on it, I’ll say that it is because you are wrong. Even though you try to portray yourself as an expert on BullDogs.
I don’t portray myself as an expert WD and frankly I’m not sure where you are getting that from.
secondly, zgz is not the chinese equiv to bengay, read the ingredients and you will find that many are common to many iron hit wines.
You should read the ingredients and the actions of the formula before you start saying zgz is NOT a jow. It is a bruise liniment and is not just for joint pain.
Where did you get that idea anyway, did someone else tell you that or did you actually do a comparison.
One of the main functions of zgz is indeed to ease sports fatigue and it is highly recommended for rheumatic pain, but it key ingredients relive neuralgia(pain) dissipate swelling a brusing by increasing bloodflow.
reading is fundamental isn’t it? :rolleyes:
maybe do your homework before telling people they are wrong about things that they have clearly looked into, where you have clearly not.
yo, Dr Wu (taiji/TCM guy) has a herb shop on n. Clark street, I get big bottles of Jao for $25, with all of the whole herbs still in the bottle. It works, I sent SevenStar a bottle a long time ago and he loved it. (sorry about the delivery, etc. haha) If you like I’ll hook either of you guys up w/it. Thanks for reminding me, I’m all achy and forgot I had that.
I do have a big ole bruise on the front of my thigh as well as a red line through the middle, do either of you guys recall stomping on my thigh? It’s wierd, I can’t think of anything that would have caused that.
Originally posted by fa_jing
I do have a big ole bruise on the front of my thigh as well as a red line through the middle, do either of you guys recall stomping on my thigh? It’s wierd, I can’t think of anything that would have caused that.
I’m guessing it’s from when I threw you and you held on to me and we went down together. You just didn’t notice at the time cause your nutz hurt a lot worse at the time :eek:
Kung Lek, from experience, zgz doesn’t do $hit for bruises. Sprained wrists-yes. torn shoulder joints-yes. Blown out backs-Yes. Bruises-no.
If the bottle says it does, that’s false advertising.
wd-
I’ve used zgs as a bruise liniment and it works fine. cuts teh time to heal in half.
I prefer homemade because I don’t particulalrly care much for all teh camphor and menthol, makes my eyes water.
point is, in a pinch and without anoter source it is an acceptable jow and general analgesic balm that does have what it takes to clear hematoma.
here’s why
Radix Notoginseng -25%
Radix Angelicae Dahuricae -13%
Rhizoma Curcumae -18%
Cinnamommum Camphora 15% (this is not straight up camphor)
Moghama Macrophylla-12%
Rhizoma Polygoni Cuspidati-12%
Mentholum 3%
Camphora-2%
It does well as a bruise medicine. NOt the best, but it will do the job.
cheers