Ive searched the forums but cant find any real info on basic moves using a bo (about 6")
Obviously the most effective method is the old SMACK SMACK BASH but I would like to learn some of the fancy twirling stuff- For our black belt we need to perform a weapons demonstration so I may as well start now, and the only other two weapons Im proficient with are nunchukas (when you screw up with nunchukas you REALLY screw up) and tonfa (not exactly the most visually appealing weapons- lets face it, its just a pair of chair legs)
I thought about using either dual broadswords or butterfly knives but I a- dont have any and b- cant afford any. Of course if anyone has any other weapons I could use that are cheap and aesthetically pleasing, feel free to let us know. cheers.
Point 1.) Nunchuka DO NOT exist. Nun-Chaku do on the other hand.
Why can’t people that claim to know a weapon or form even get the name right. Hmmm, makes me think …
Point 2.) There is nothing like Nun-chaku(s). Japanese has NO plural form, so stop mixing languages.
Again I have to add a Hmmm…
Point 3.) For your BB Test you need to do a weapons demo.
Shouldn’t you be using a weapon that you learned prior to your BB test?
I am sure that your style has weapon forms as part of the curriculum.
While many styles have staff forms the techs and execution will differ between styles. 6" is a Japanese weapon, but you claim your style as Nam Wah Pai Kung Fu which sounds Chinese.
BTW, if you think Nun-chaku are bad for screwing up, try the steel whips or similar weapons.
Overall, I have to say that I am confused by your post.
Originally posted by Serpent Well, T’ai Ji/Taiji/TaiChi/TaeChi/etc. Monkey… what’s the obsession with the romanisation of nunchuka? Get over it already.
What’s the obsession is that it is 100% WRONG and doesn’t make any sense.
Same way that there is NO word like “Gi” in Japanese, kinda like saying “sers” rather than “trousers”.
If you can’t even muster the correct vocabulary/terminoloy for your style it shows your dedication for learning your style or the lack thereof.
Especially for someone that claims to have studied a JMA for a few years.
Heck my Sifu still corrects my pronounciation of some of our chinese posture names, but I am getting better and fewer lumps on the head.
And 6" is a bloody matchstick. If you want to be picky you both got it wrong. 6" means six inches. The six feet you are looking for is 6’.
:rolleyes:
I was not sure if he was used to the imperial system or not, so I didn’t comment.
we use centimetres in my country, I was just trying to translate it to make it easier to understand.
And I have seen “nun-chaku” written so many different ways I have given up and just spell it however it comes to mind. Sorry if I offended you, I’ll try to use the proper word
we do a bo form as a brown belt (I think) grading. Two person set. We are taught other weapons (broadswords, tonfa etc) but we dont have any forms with those until you get into higher black belt gradings. I am a lowly grading atm but I would like to work on my demonstration now because I am absolutely hopeless at memorising them. I just practice twice as much
Eh?
Chucks aint hard. They’re fun. Just play with em a bit. Be tough. The sting teaches you faster.
:eek:
Bo staff… Its hard to describe swings. Play with it. Learn the form. If you are worried about BB test, you said you learn a form at brown. Practice from the brown belt form.
Expand on what you know.
yeah i know chucks arent hard (my favourite weapon actually) but if I get nervous and accidentally crack myself in the head… Don’t see that happening with any other weapon. If I could I would just do that little bt bruce lee does in enter the dragon. reckon I could pass with that, only ten seconds but d*mn.
Originally posted by Ikken Hisatsu we use centimetres in my country, I was just trying to translate it to make it easier to understand.
Figured as much, most countries either changed to metric or are in the process of doing so. Exception being of course …
And I have seen “nun-chaku” written so many different ways I have given up and just spell it however it comes to mind. Sorry if I offended you, I’ll try to use the proper word
You didn’t offend me, but if you meet a traditional JMA or a Guy that studied in Japan he either won’t understand your terminology or think you are trying to con him.
Correct terminology is important if you meet people that can’t speak the same language as you do.
Example:
In my style once a year we got a get-together with practicioners from all over the globe. Most only know a smattering of english to communicate, but EVRYONE knows the chinese terms and thus we can so-so communciate or use body-language to emphaise points in addition to using the chinese terminology.
we do a bo form as a brown belt (I think) grading. Two person set. We are taught other weapons (broadswords, tonfa etc) but we dont have any forms with those until you get into higher black belt gradings. I am a lowly grading atm but I would like to work on my demonstration now because I am absolutely hopeless at memorising them. I just practice twice as much
Memorising new forms is a common problem in any art/style.
Relax and don’t try to remember, also go through the form in your head.
After that work on the bits that are missing and soon you will remember everything see the below link too:
no the idea is that we think of our own one, to show we are capable of independent thought and dedication. An expression of ourselves if you like. [/B]
OIC.
FWIW, I know quiet a few JMA that have similar requirements, not sure if they are for grading though.
But shouldn’t you still use material that was taught by your teacher to do that?
Kinda seems strange to sep outside your style to create a from in order to be ranked within the style.
saw some weapon demos at a tournament recently. one guy was using one of those little blades on the end of a long bit of string (no idea what the name is… the weapon jet nearly gets hit by when hes spying on the monks in shaolin monk) which is definitely no in the curriculum. another guy doing an empty weapon form did a butterfly kick which is also not in the curriculum, so I assume that we dont have to entirely stick to moves only taught in our style (having said that I will check to make sure)
But anyway- we do get taught all the spinny moves later on, but I wanted to get a headstart. I checked with our instructor and he says that its ok to practice now but since he recently got in trouble for teaching stuff to ranks that arent supposed to have learnt them at that stage I didnt want to press the point.
Originally posted by Ikken Hisatsu saw some weapon demos at a tournament recently. one guy was using one of those little blades on the end of a long bit of string (no idea what the name is… the weapon jet nearly gets hit by when hes spying on the monks in shaolin monk) which is definitely no in the curriculum.
It is called a Rope Dart to the best of my knowledge.
another guy doing an empty weapon form did a butterfly kick which is also not in the curriculum, so I assume that we dont have to entirely stick to moves only taught in our style (having said that I will check to make sure)
Ask one of the guys that graded, for the requirements he might also be able to give you some pointers.
If you can’t even muster the correct vocabulary/terminoloy for your style it shows your dedication for learning your style or the lack thereof.
Especially for someone that claims to have studied a JMA for a few years.
Isn’t ‘t’ai ji’ a mix of two romanization systems? In pinyin, it would be ‘taiji’ (without the apostrophe) and in Wade Giles, it’d be ‘t’ai chi.’
Isn’t ‘t’ai ji’ a mix of two romanization systems? In pinyin, it would be ‘taiji’ (without the apostrophe) and in Wade Giles, it’d be ‘t’ai chi.’
Hmm… [/B]
Hey, clever arse.
My point was NOT about romanisation, but about correct spelling and terminology.
If I could I would rather use the Chinese characters here than ay form of romanisation as this is clearer and leads to less misunderstandings.
FWIW, Japanese has 2 methods for romanisation and BOTH will result in Nun-chaku, as they are phonetic systems and differ only marginally.
There are no words like Nunchuka, Chucks, Chaka sticks or similar in the Japanese Language, those are words created by ignoramuses that can’t be bothered to learn the correct terms.
Same way that there is NO Jutsu in Ju-Jutsu or similar. correct is either Jitsu or Jiutsu, Jutsu is a different word with a completely different meaning.
So if YOU do’t know what is being discussed or got any valuable input to contribute, STFU.
My point was NOT about romanisation, but about correct spelling and terminology.
Japanese has 2 methods for romanisation and BOTH will result in Nun-chaku, as they are phonetic systems and differ only marginally.
There are no words like Nunchuka, Chucks, Chaka sticks or similar in the Japanese Language, those are words created by ignoramuses that can’t be bothered to learn the correct terms.
Same way that there is NO Jutsu in Ju-Jutsu or similar. correct is either Jitsu or Jiutsu, Jutsu is a different word with a completely different meaning.
So if YOU do’t know what is being discussed or got any valuable input to contribute, STFU. [/B]
Settle down chuckles. Just pointing out that it’s not so much fun when someone starts picking at your spelling instead of the substance of your message.
You suggested that Ikken’s claims at knowing the nunchaku were questionable based on his spelling error. So what are we to take from your mistranslation?
Sod all. Doesn’t mean anything. It’s just a mistranslation.
No big deal.
Just like nunchuka. If you can spell it properly, go for it. But you shouldn’t have your entire post called into question over it.
and, unless you are training your numchuks by going out and finding a good tree and hitting it as hard as you can with the chucks and NOT getting hit back, you don’t know squat about nunchucks:p
Originally posted by apoweyn
You suggested that Ikken’s claims at knowing the nunchaku were questionable based on his spelling error. So what are we to take from your mistranslation? [/qyote]
That I don’t know the correct way of romanising it, which is not surprising since over here we use Chinese Characters to write it.
FWIW, that romanisation is standard in my home-country.
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Just like nunchuka. If you can spell it properly, go for it. But you shouldn’t have your entire post called into question over it.
Do you read posts and threads at all, or just attack people.
My point AGAIN is terminology NOT romanisation, but maybe that is too difficult for YOU to understand. Those are 2 different things.
Maybe we should mangle the terminology in YOUR art and than say oh we don’t know how to spell things corectly so we make up our own names that are neither english, chinese nor any other existing language.
Got it now, yes, the wrong terminology is taught widely, but that does not mean that it is correct nor should be continued.
20, 30yrs ago there was little chance of knowing the correct terms as few people had access to native speakers or could and did travel a lot, these days we got the Net and many other resources and the correct terminology is known.
Also check the other points I made WHY correct terminology is important, not romanisation.
Originally posted by Ikken Hisatsu
[B]Ive searched the forums but cant find any real info on basic moves using a bo (about 6")
Obviously the most effective method is the old SMACK SMACK BASH but I would like to learn some of the fancy twirling stuff- For our black belt we need to perform a weapons demonstration so I may as well start now, and the only other two weapons Im proficient with are nunchukas (when you screw up with nunchukas you REALLY screw up) and tonfa (not exactly the most visually appealing weapons- lets face it, its just a pair of chair legs)
I thought about using either dual broadswords or butterfly knives but I a- dont have any and b- cant afford any. Of course if anyone has any other weapons I could use that are cheap and aesthetically pleasing, feel free to let us know. cheers. [/B]
Ikken,
Trust me, it’s possible to whack yourself in the head with a longstaff. Voice of experience.
If you’re already experienced with the nunchaku or tonfa, use the nunchaku or tonfa. The consequences for buggering up aren’t any greater than the consequences for buggering up with the staff. And the likelihood of doing so is considerably less, given that you already have some experience.
Besides, if your black belt test isn’t about pushing yourself to perform, I don’t know what is.
