HSK,
I made that soft comment for 2 reasons…
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I thought I would be making fun of you…not someone else (I thought the pic was of you)
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I was also referring to the power your Sifu looks like he could generate.
Green Willow
You still suck:eek:
Green Willow-Sifu Salvatera is outside of “critical Distance”, which anyone who actually understands figting should know is the range where in order to hit you, the opponent must first take a step. At this range, it makes no difference what kind of ‘stance’ you are in. He is giving nothing away. Once the opponent takes his step to close, he reveals himself.
The question whether he can block a boxer’s jab with that block is ridiculous. Can you block an axe kick with the same block you would block a low roundhouse kick? The block is being used for this specific angle of attack.
Look, if you cannot understand these very basic concepts-and when I say basic, I am speaking of rank beginner’s understanding,usually taught within the first few weeks of training, then you have absolutely no business whatsoever criticizing any of these people on the forum. It is obvious that you are a teenager, with very little experience, most likely not enrolled in a school and have gotten what little information you think you posess from magazines, and internet discussions.
Do yourself a favor, enroll in a real school, under a qualified instructor, empty your cup, sit down and shut up. Maybe you’ll learn something.
sheesh! Kids these days. This is why animals eat their young.
More great pics
I love the arm lock escape, in fact I have been taught that one previous…CLF rocks..
I also like rolling the arm lock straight into a Jung Choih (is that CLF or Lama???/ I forget sometimes)
Green Willow
You still still suck:eek:
ten tigers and greencloudCLF,
once again thanks for kind words. its always nice when people can understand whats going on.
if green willow cannot understand the basic workings of a gung fu system and critique a still photograph that was meant for demo purposes only, then we ALL agree that he has no gung fu knowedge whatsoever.
the only thing left is to ignore the loser and revel in the fact that we have good gung fu and he doesn’t.
once again thanks to everyone…except green with evny willow tree.
I was gonna say the same thing. 
I think of fighting in ranges…“critical distance”, kicking distance, punching distance, grappling distance.
chris,
boy are you telling me. there was one time i broke the link off of the banana bag after hitting it with a buddha palm and it went flying about 2-3 feet and the top of the bag landed on my sifu’s desk while he was sitting there. when the bag hit the desk, he jumped up and over his chair and had this look in his eye as if he thought i was attacking him and he was about to kill me.
i effin froze right there in place to show him while he was in that frame of mind that it wasn’t an attack. it was an accident.
another thing is you never want to sneak up on him and scare him because you will end up on the floor somehow. and if knows his stuff so well, he will play you like domino’s and know your next move and he will be all over you then disappear while you’re left in bewilderment.
Ten Tigers,
pm me with your phone #, i’d like to call and say hello. and thanks for seeing the truth in my sifu’s stance.
But to clarify since it is my sifu, i want you to go back to the guard photo and take a look at the line in the cement by my sifu’s foot while in that stance.
then go to the uppercut photo and see the distance my sifu covered.
and, for those who are clueless to why my sifu would choose that pose, because like ten tigers said, BJ-my classemate is too far away to land any strike, or even if it did it wouldn’t be effective. in that stance you can maneuver left right forward backward relatively easy.
if it were anyclose he would have changed his stance according to the situation.
in refence to his hands being further away from his face. well, if you don’t know choy lee fut, then maybe you should train with a CLF person to know why. but i’ll lend some help. his hands at that distance are in prime position to deal with either a high medium or low attack.
I don’t feel one must always have his hands up in front of their face when starting out. hell, when i was working on the waterfront with Longshoreman one of them heard about me and wanted to test me. he and his brothers (some portugese guys) were well known street fighters. so this one kept telling me how good he was and took a few steps back at least 6 feet away and he was bragging how he could drop me from there.
he could tell i didn’t belive him so he charged forward with a punch (i just moved my head back) and then (quick too) he launched a reverse leg front thrust kick and without thinking i instantly used the Choy Lee Fut Kwan Kiu block (forearm block) and shot his left into another direction but he looked at me as if he did something great and i never moved. during is ****iness, i happened to look to my right a little bit to cause him to look at my snake fist right infront of his eyes.
i don’t know how but he never even noticed my hand inches away from his face. he was too into his own self and when he saw my snake fist there his eyes opened up real big and said how did that get there?
so now, when it comes to people like green willow and his ignorant observations i just brush them off my shoulders knowing he wouldn’t last in our school.
This response is too awesome.
Let’s see, you said:
So I said:
Meaning if the end result of some previous action is a stance then what is the beginning of the action called? Wouldn’t that also be a stance?
It means the starting position of an action. Understand yet?
Nope, not what I’m asking at all.
Why is there such a reading comprehension problem on this forum?
Forget it, don’t answer. I’m tired of going around in circles with the reading impaired.
If you understand what I’d say you know that it encompass distance and timing. Anyway why start off something on the back foot. You’re already in retreat how are you going to advance.
Why do you want to block and ax kick with your arm when its so predictable - don’t you have footwork to move?
Why do you want to use your arm to block a low round house kick? Have you tried that agaisnt a Thai boxer and see what happens? At least do what thai boxers do - use your legs to block low kicks - it makes a lot of sense really.
So humour me - how do you block a boxer’s punch?
I described it in my previous post. what ever position you take you shouldn’t put yourself in a bad position. Having your weight on the back leg is a bad position. Not as bad as pointing your face down and sticking your @ss up in the air - but close. Do you understand now?
Ah, another product of our current education system. What do they teach in schools these days?
Green hairy bush (willow)
you obviously know didly squat about choy lee fut, and if you did you would realize my sifu is in a good position to move in any direction he chooses based on the attack whether he shoots to the side, forward backward, and plus by standing on the back leg my sifu made it a lot harder to be hit in the face.
my sifu is also setting him up and reacts accordingly.
of course these are only hypthetical situations, and if you have ever been in a street fight then you would know how unpredictable it will be. the good thing about my sifu is that he has always taught us how to react and never stand there thinking too much. thinking too much will def get you in trouble, and not many martial atists out there leave the confines of the system structure and use it freestyle without knowing whats coming next.
green willow, you are just a scrub, not a full grown bush yet. why don’t you come train with me in san francisco and i will personally show you how to use the choy lee fut system. maybe you’ll learn a thing or two, or just something for once in your life.
Says you maybe, I don’t agree. Street fights happen quick and there isn’t always time to to set yourself in ‘the ultimate stance’, whatever that might be.
If you can only fight from one stance maybe you need to train a little more. Also, if you don’t see any value in that stance your training is seriously lacking.
Get up to speed on MA and come back and maybe we can discuss this again.
Did you know that there’s a pretty effective style of Kung-Fu that relentlessly pushes forward with center line punches while keeping more weight on the back leg?
In fact, there’s a whole forum devoted to this style.
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Hey Green Willow, I don’t think anyone has asked you this question yet…
Do you train in MA? (I think yes…you seem to have a basic understanding)
What style do you train in? (I would guess Ba Gua)
How long have you trained?
Are you cute?
yut yee sam,
pls don’t water the bush. when you add water much like the way a sifu adds knowledge, the water will only make the green bush grow. and its not time for the bush to grow, he’s still kinda…GREEN!
I disagree. He asks how to advance from a cat stance. He has no concept of the value of a defensive posture.
He has zero CMA training and probably no real fights in his life.
…or movement mechanics period. If you want to advance forward, regardless of how little you pick up your front leg, your back leg has to be the dominant support to push off of. Whether 70-30, 60-40, or 51-49, the concept is the same.
HSK- sorry bout that! I’ll turn off the hose! LOL
Yat Yee Sam,
cool. haha… you don’t want the bush to get too wild. then you’ll have to up root it and hopefully put it through the chipper (woodChipper).
anyhow, you and Ou Ji are both 100% correct. green willow has no clue of movement, or CMA for that matter. either that his sifu or sensei or whatever really sucks.
the one good thing abour green willow is that now we have a gauge to compare our skills from and as along as we can say we are not as lost and ignorant as the green willow we are actually in a pretty good place in our training. when we lose sight as he has, then we must take more drastic measures to regain what was…wellllllll never really taught to green willow…ahahahahahahhhhaaaa
its great not to be green willow, huh?
ok, willow, I will humor (and educate) you.
One, this is simply a still shot-one moment, frozen in time,designed to illustrate a specific technique. Odds, are, when you (or in this case Sifu Salvatera) are fighting, you will not be standing still in wait. My personal philosophy is either you are attacking, or you are attacking! Hung Kuen attacks even in defense, as does CLF, and SPM.
Like ouiji stated, you need to transfer weight to the rear leg in order to push the body forward. If you are familiar with triangle footwork, there is a very quick movement being used that enables you to cut in either direction.
Cat stances, many times indicate a kick, as they are a transition move in most cases. If Chinese forms, techniques are indicated or assumed. Remember, the forms are the textbook, not the technique itself. TCMA is conceptual.
as far as how I deal with a jab-this totally depends on the situation. There are many ways. Phon=sao-or trading hands can deflect and trap a jab-not one that hangs out there, but is quickly retracted. The idea is that obviously, you cannot catch a punch, but the upper arm can be trapped as it does not move much.
You can perform a “catch”-this is not actually catching, but intercepting the strike into your palm, like a catcher’s mitt. It is a standard boxing technique. It can be combined with slipping and counter punching at the same time. Slipping is seen in the bobbing and weaving and slipping movements in the Snake form.
The catch can also be combined with a destruction, such as an elbow to the fist or arm, or a gingerfist strike to the nerves running along the arm.
You can also angle your body and strike under the jab-easier than it seems, but it is probably something that must be shown. When my Sifu showed it to me, I asked, “How come boxers don’t do this?” he simply shrugged his shoulders.
I also would kick, using my lead leg, as my leg is longer than your arm. and puts my head out of range.
I can also crash into your guard, preventing your jab from coming out, very common in Hung Kuen as well.
Ok, so I just handed you a half-dozen techniques you can use against a jab. Go work on them and see how you feel with them. Some you will like, some you won’t. This is how you define your own personal fighting style.
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