Just let me or GDA know when. 2 sounds like a lot of fun.
Sucks about the tournament though.
Mat,
I was just wondering if you would like to explain to all the members of this forum why it is you want to touch my testicles…and why you think it would be fun?
How was the MMA under that rule set, with not allowing head strikes on the ground?
Was it like a combination of San Da stand up and Grappler’s Quest? That’s kind of how I imagined it. Though now I was thinking the prospect of San Da but with MMA gloves could actually be interesting. Though I don’t like the idea that you can’t punch someone’s nose who’s trying to twist off your arm.
Congrats for your fighters Ross. That’s something to be proud of.
Sounds like par for the course for the most part with the new wave of combat sport. When I was doing submission grappling tournies, there was always some similar snafu, and at the very least all the divisions would start late. I ended up paying twice a couple times because I didn’t want to walk away after driving 3 freaking hours. Pretty ridiculous.
It was the polar opposite when I boxed. True enough I was on a team, but I got to the tourney, gave my name, hit the locker room, and did my own thing until it was fight time. No hassle. No BS.
Got to hand it to LKFMDC, this is how the fights that he organizes are run, at least the ones i’ve been to. Wish all could be that smooth, most are barely worth going to, total flusterclucks.
Thanks for the kind words, we try to do our best… because we’ve either been fighters or have fighters and understand the “other side” of the coin…
So why don’t we just do more tournaments with fewer disciplines in it? I’ve experienced similar situations it’s a “hurry up to wait” mentality followed by total chaos to get judges and competitors with far too much packed into one tournament.
Good news!!!
One of my students ended up winning 2 golds in the sword fighting division…man those medals are heavy…Good job Charlie Trenka…
Video and images to follow after her dad gets me the DVD.
Congrats to your student. It’s a shame the event was so poorly run though. I’ve never understood how people can do things that way; based on your description it’s almost like they couldn’t have messed it up more if they tried.
Sifu, I’m posting from my laptop and can only access once in a while this week. But, which o f our guys fought? Did Tristan and Corwin enter? How was the rest of th trip and who else went? I wish I had been there.
~~J
I won’t make up excuses for the reistration process…that is the first issue we are dealing with…it is hard when you have all those people register at the door, and with all the disciplines it was hard to get it done correctly.
I will say this, the month going into the tournament I was forced to take over the Pro MMA show, I literaly spent almost every minute of every day coordinating it…the last week yp to the tournament I had to spend picking up fighters, bringing them to the hospital for there meds, working out logistics…because the group I had involved with the Pro Show were not allowed to come into NJ …
I will admit, we did too much the first year, and for a first time event were not prepared … however, after speaking with the discipline leaders we have already instituted many changes…
-For 2007 BATB we will utilize 50,000 less sq. ft of space…the space we had used was entirely too much
-We will only focus on the Championships, there will be no Pro Shows, No Banquet, no additional festivites…we will include more championships
-We have set up a few Directors meetings, we definitely did not hav enough meetings before the event…this will help coordinate times…
-Though I have a TKD background, I do not run any of the Championships, I will be utilizing a ‘local’ CMA director…though the CMA director has run large events in the midwest, it doesn’t help in the NJ metro area (any suggestions?)
–he will help in the tournament logistics though.
-We will be using a service for the registration process next year, We have already spoken with UTC (Ultimate Tournament services) to run the registration desk next year…
I will be the first one to say things didn’t go 100% but everything that didn’t go right can be changed, fixed and made better…
ALot happened at the BATB, so much that I could write a book about it…however I am taking that as a learning experience to make future events better…
Ed Hsu
I won’t make up excuses for the reistration process…that is the first issue we are dealing with…it is hard when you have all those people register at the door, and with all the disciplines it was hard to get it done correctly.
I didn’t register at the door…I registered online WEEK before…seems like it would have been easier to pay the extra money and register at the door…
The problem we had was with the paypal registration process…many of the online registrations never made it through…also if there was even a slight spelling mistake we had problems with the pre-reg.
Again, for a tournament of this size and with all the disciplines we are trying to rectify all the problems…what needs to be fixed is fixable. I apologize for any inconvienance this may have caused…though when the Championships did get started everything did go smoothly…
Ed Hsu
Agreed. Though the events run at the gym in the city were much smoother than the last one in Jersey, though that should be expected because of the sheer size of the thing.
Just hard when you eat breakfast at 8:30 expecting things to start by 11 so you bring an apple or two to hold ya over but then don’t fight until like 2:00 or 3:00 p.m… just too much up and down with nerves. But that’s a part of it too, though, and experience is a great teacher.
Overall, have to say Ross runs a great show. The city ones are ideal. Show up, crash in the locker room and wait for the call. That’s perfect scenario.
Again, I understand how important the scheduling is…
It seems that the worst of it happened to the CMA and related events…don’t know why.
The registration process is our First priority and one that we have fixed for next year. To process all the apps and bracket each discipline was not an easy task.I hope you understand the undertaking this project was and understand that it is our priority to make this event run smoother next time around.
I appreciate Sifu Ross with the bracketing…no one believed that the Amateur MMA was bracketed that same day and that it wasn’t pre-bracketed…
Please, I welcome your comments and suggestions…my concept is a good one, however there are issues to hammer out to make it the best posssible event it can be.Thank you all for your understanding.
Ed Hsu
One of the problems we encountered was the lack of CMA participants, and I could tell you why that was.
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Coaches ( sifu’s) should never be charged admission, certainly not 40 dollars for a coaches fee. The Sifu’s are the ones bringing the talent and it should’t matter wether they bring 10 guys or 1. All I could say when I was asked to pay was well I never! I had 10 people but I arrived on friday and of course there was all the confusion.
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treat the coaches right and they will respond the same way back. Most of the CMA events that I have attended usualy have some snafus but since courtesy is contagious we all lend a hand and make it happen.
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Most kung fu guys I know are very frugal and probably won’t come to martial arts event if it costs over 100 bucks. I had guys that competed in 4 events that paid close to 200 bucks to compete. Hey I told them we are in AC and it’s expensive. Once we stepped into the competition imagine their dissapointment when they saw the lack of competitors.
When we go to kung fu tourneys we are also going there to see old friends that otherwise we don’t see unless we go to these competitions.
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Get judges from the east coast that everyone knows and trust, not that the guys that were there didn’t do a good job. Including the events organizer that will alay the fears of competitors going into an event blindly. The kung fu world is a close knit community and everyone knows each other.
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Give the fighters a break on the reg price they are the entertainment and are the ones bringing in the spectators. Charge the spectator more they will pay to see the fights. Back in the nacmaf day we never charged the fighters in the san shou divisions to atract more fighters. And we held the events during the evening shows and let me tell you it was a packed house.
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Oh yea how about adding a continuous sparring division, since that’s what most kung fu guys compete in at CMA events.
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Hire a respected Sifu to organize the whole thing not an events organizor.
I must say that the San Da ran smoothly once it got started and doing it in the cage was pretty cool. Hey we may have started a whole new sport SAN CAGE.
Mr Hsu,
I was more than happy to help out at the event, in fact it was an honor. My only comment was about being confronted aggressively about something in the Thai boxing when I had NOTHING to do with that event… literally nothing, I was a spectator in the stands
Next year, I’d be more than happy to help out, even taking on an official position if you want. Feel free to email me at LKFMDC@att.net
Thank you for the suggestions, and thank you for the assistance Sifu Ross…
We are aggressively working on making the 2007 Battle at the Boardwalk a successful event…
Ed Hsu
Ed do the right thing next year and I’l be back, I realy did enjoy the san da.
no explanation required.
im in dude.