Me and Saeksan would like to develop a strong kungfu community in thses states. Saeksan is the representitive of the US chinese koushu federation for thses states and we are hoping to develop a CMA community that would make a regional tournament for these states possible. You can show your support by introducing yourself, style, school, web site etc. and also let us know if you have any ideas that would be goo for uniting us. I had an idea for a newsletter/magazine for practitioners in these states what do you think?
Are you in these states?Ohio, Indiana, Michigan, Illinois, Wisconsin, Minnesota, Iowa, North Dakota,
Dude you could have used the state abbreviations 
Iron
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Me and Saeksan
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Iron
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never thought about doing it this way…
great ideas SD! keep 'em coming!
No problem I just want to do my part.
If we’re gonna fight, I’m down. Currently focusing on Shuai Chiao and BJJ. May be adding in some Hsing Yi into the mix. I vote for ACSCA rules. Basically, NHB without the ground game.
Well, not at the same time… but over time I could visit each state…unless of course I managed to somehow travel at warp ten at which point I could be everywhere in the universe at the same time, at least according to Star Trek.
I think the Dalai Lama has a different way that doesn’t involve warp drive.
hmmmm.
peace
Kung Lek
Actually the fighting will be Koushu leitei. The tournament will be sanctioned by them. I am not sure if they have a shuai jiao comp. You’d have to ask saeksan. I believe the tournament would be the same as the tournament in Maryland except closer.
The fighting part of the tournament…
yup, SD is right we would be looking at Kuoshu Lei Tai rules (with an actual Lei Tai). I’m not familiat with the ACSCA rules but if it’s full contact you want it’s full contact that we’re planning on.
At first I doubt we can meet the expectations of the Maryland tournament, but the idea would be to shoot to have the same organization and planning that the Nationals/Internationals have.
Cool. Get it going, give me the info. I;ll contact the Chen-Heads. They like to fight.
Great!
where would you like me to send the info?
Here’s the low down on USCKF Lei Tai rules…
from the USCKF website:
"Lei Tai (full contact fighting) Rules
Contestants will fight on a 24 square foot, two and one half foot high Lei Tai.
Competitors must use headgear, gloves, mouthpiece, and groin cup. Female competitors must also wear a chest protector.
Elimination rounds will be 1 1/2 minutes each. The final fight in each division will have 2 minute rounds. The victor must win two out of three rounds.
Scoring:
Contestant executes clear punch or kick - 1 point.
Contestant executes clear punch or kick that knocks opponent down - 2 points.
Without falling, contestant successfully throws opponent to the ground - 2 points.
Contestant forces or throws opponent off Lei Tai - 3 points.
Through own error, contestant loses balance - 1 point deduction
Contestant executes clear elbow/knee technique without holding - 1 point
Penalties:
Contact to the eyes, throat, back of the head, or groin is illegal. For female competitors, contact to the chest is also illegal.
Techniques using the head are illegal.
Fouls:
First violation: 1 point deduction
Second violation: 3 point deduction
Third violation: disqualification
Technical Fouls:
First violation: warning
Second violation: 1 point deduction
Third violation: disqualification
Competitors who maliciously hurt their opponents will be held liable for any damages or injuries. The executive referee has full authority to stop the fight at any time for safety or any other reason."
What do you guys think?
Beautiful rules. I don’t think anybody could complain, full contact punches, kicks, throws, elbows and knees. It brings tears to my eyes. Does the USCKF have weapons sparring? I’d really love that.
You bet!
There are two types of competition…and here are the rules:
"Time Limited Competition
In the time allotted, either 1 or 2 minutes (to be determined by the Tournament Director) the object is to obtain the highest score.
Strikes to the head and body (both front and back) and/or disarming a weapon, score 3 points.
Strikes to the arms and/or legs score 2 points.
Score Limited Competition
The match will be awarded to the competitor reaching full score first.
Full score point total will be determined by the Tournament Director.
THE CENTER REFEREE POSSESSES FULL AUTHORITY."
Competitors who maliciously hurt their opponents will be held liable for any damages or injuries
youre joking rite ???
This is because THC is not an alkaloid. It does not contain a nitrogen atom, therefore it is a terpenophenolic compound
Let’s not start argueing about the rules. Let’s keep his on topic, this post is to serve a purpose
p.s. at the mention of weapons sparring I am now drooling with anticipation
Why not just form a “community” of people who train for and compete in MMA as I have previously suggested? I don’t see why everyone seems to be so opposed to doing that.
the northern plains and midwest?
The only thing that will take off there is MMA. Its full of wrestler/boxers. MMA is whats going on now and its the only thing that will make money.
I would love to do Kuo Shu. NEver have, seems like fun, joint locking and all.
polaris i agree with you actually theres so many sanda like competitions out there like this one, but i dont see many kf guys actually in mma and it makes us look so thick like we play with wooden dollies all day, but…
on another note i didnt want to argue i was just wondering is it normal practise for this ----> Competitors who maliciously hurt their opponents will be held liable for any damages or injuries
in boxing mma etc ??? thats a scary thought does that mean if you kick the guy in the temple and he dies becasue of god knows what you are liable for manslaughter ???
This is because THC is not an alkaloid. It does not contain a nitrogen atom, therefore it is a terpenophenolic compound
Well what we want is a good CMA community like they have on the west coast. We are not “getting together to train” but are operating seperate but freindly schools which will get together for events and competitions. Saeksan is the regional representive(not sure if the title is exactly right) for the USCKF so the tournaments will be sanctioned by them, besides the fact that the USCKF rules and it’s members don’t have splits over which is the real org like USAWKF. We are both hoping to strengthen the bond of CMA. MMA isn’t a bad sport but that’s not really what we do. We will use the banner of the USCKF to bring us together