I’m looking to compare ingredients in various Jows to look for commonalities.
This Chinese guy from New York who was visiting our school once gave me a bottle of jow with ground-up c0ckroaches in it. Oddly, he told me to keep it out of sunlight. Perhaps, it might scurry away when the lights come on? shrug Anyways, its still locked up on the closet. I figure after it ages well, it might just raise the dead. 
Be careful which ones you try out. Some jow can be used internally and on open wounds, but others are poisonous when ingested. Make sure you know your jow.
p.s. Anyone ever heard of a recipe like that?
Do a search for Dit Da Jow in the TCM forum - there are a few recipes that have been documented… as for the ****roach - it’s actually a fairly common ingredient in jow as it moves blood quite effectively.
Ever drank any Gecko wine?
peace
herb ox
1 bottle of strong vodka, gin, Chinese rice wine or wood grain alcohol (26 oz)
Artemesia (Liu ji nu)------------5g
Borneol (Bingpian)--------------1g
Carthamus (Honghua)-----------5g
Catechu (Ercha)-----------------8g
Cinnabar (Zhusha)---------------5g
Cirsium (DaJi)--------------------1g
Dragon’s Blood (Xuejie)---------30g
Mastic (Ruxiang)-----------------5g
Musk (Shexiang)-----------------1g
Myrrh (Moyao)-------------------5g
Pinellia (ShengBanXia)----------5g
this is a good one. if you don’t wanna use cinnabar (mercury paste) sub with arnica tincture or the dried blossoms of same.
powder everything (some stuff is already powder when you get it, like the dragons blood)
put it in the alcohol
put it in a cool dark place and let it sit for 2- 6 months.
strain and squeeze it through a cheese cloth and put it in a glass bottle.
the longer you let it sit, the stronger it will be.
topical use only do not put on cuts or scrapes.this is for bruises only deep or superficial. to make more, grade up the contents accordingly.
Hmmm, I recognise a few of these. Thanks for putting in in Grams too, I have a scale for that.
I wonder what the Dragon’s Blood does? Does anyone know? I know it can be used to stop bleeding, bt it is also very sticky, and resiony. It’s like adding in candle wax almost.
Dragons blood speeds healing and stops bleeding. In the case of hematoma(bruises) It will stop the process of all the red blood cells bunching to the injury which in turn reduces scar tissue. This is provided it is massaged in properly.
A big part of the healing process associated with use of iron hit wine is the massage to break up the dead blood cells that are forming at the injury.
dit da jow should always be massaged in with as much pressure as you are able to stand. the alcohol will help to carry the herbs beneath the skin and then evaporate leaving the herbs embedded to do their continued work.
Kung Lek
when you say 1 bottle, do you mean 5th of vodka, gin or whatever.
does anybody have anything for internal.
Dit Da Jow Recipe (not mine)
NOTE: This recipe comes with no warranty WHATSOEVER. If you die from using it, don’t blame me. However, it does come from a respected US magazine and has been tested/used by many with great success. Particularly, don’t allow this to be used by pregnant ladies. The Jow will attack the unborn foetus as it sees it as a blood clot/bruise.
Ingredients
English
Chinese
Please give me one ounce of each:
-
Kuei pi chih
(Cinnamonium cassia) cinnamon twigs -
Sheng di huang
(Rehmannia glutinosa) rehmannia -
Lien tzu
(Nelumbo nucifera) lotus root -
Tien chi
(Gymnura pinatifida) tien chi or pseudo-ginseng -
Huang sun
(Scutellaria baicalensis) skullcap root -
Hung Hua
(Cartharous tinctorus) safflower -
Ru Hsiang
(Boswellia glabra) frankincense -
Mo yao
(Commiphora malmai) myrrh -
Chuan xiong
(Ligusticom tucidum) river parsley, hemlock parsley -
Kan tsao
(Glycyrrhizae uralensis or glabra) licorice -
Tang kuei mei
(Angelicae sinensis) dong quai “tails” -
Pai shao
(Paeonia albiflora) white peony root
Preparation
Coarsely crush each ingredient in a mortar. Gringing to poweder is not as good, since the powders will form a sticky sediment which can interfere with solubility.
A word of caution about mortars: The wooden and ceramic models often found in gourmet shops are meant for crushing spices. Some of these ingredients, especially the stony tien chi, are just too tough. The ideal is the old apothecary-style brass mortar and pestle. Good luck finding one. The cheap substitute is a hammer and a brick. Wrap th eroot in denim canvas, or leather, and hit it a few times with a solid hammer. That should do the initial breaking, and you can follow up with a kitchen-type mortar if necessary.
The usual ration is an ounce of drient plant materials to a pint of liquid. Place all ingredients in a one-quart bottle. Fill with cheap vodka (40% alcohol in water). Some of the botanical compounds are soluble in water and some are soluble in alcohol, so the alcohol/water combination is necessary to properly dissolve them. Water or alcohol alone won’t do it. Do not use methyl or isopropyl alcohol if you are making the liquid from scratch (i.e. don’t want to use cheap vodka).
For the first thre days, shake the mixture several times each day. This allows the water and alcohol to circulate through the ingredients. Then set the bottle in a cool dry place.
When is it ready?
The liquid will go through color changes, and it’s ready to use when it turns a dark brown color. This should take about three months (don’t use it before that long). However, the jow gets better over time and for the best jow, I’d recommend leaving it about a year.
How do I use it?
Warm the jow in your hands and rub it into the affected area three times per day. Don’t pour off the excess alcohol but you use it like that. It’s sort of like an infused herb olive oil, if that make’s any sense. It’s isn’t a goo, and if it gets like that, you did something wrong. You just rub it on and leave it like that, without wrapping. Don’t wash it off.
A purplish bruise should heal to the red stage in one-to-two days instead of the normal five-to-seven days. remember, herbal remedies do not promise “instant relief”. Instead they simple accelerate the body’s natural healing process.
Good luck with Dit Da Jow!!!
kung lek
when you say one bottle, is that a 5th.
does anybody have anything for internal.
1 bottle = 26 oz of alcohol.
I am not sure what a fifth is. Pretty sure that’s an american term for booze. If you’re not sure just get a measure and dole out 26 oz.
i figured it out, it is a fifth bottle. since 1/5 is a fifth of a gallon and gallon is 128 oz and 1/5 is 25.6 oz and round it off to 26oz. 
there ya go!
I learned something new and now I know what a fifth is!
up here in the great white north we have a colloqiualism too, it’s called a mickey.
Basically 12 ozs or a half a 26. we also have mini-mickeys and of course the 2 oz airplane drinks.
mmmmmm airplane drinks. lol
Active Ingredients: Methyl Salicylate 18.3%, Menthol 16%.
Inactive Ingredients: Lanolin, Microcrystalline Wax, Purified Water, Synthetic Beeswax.
Is that Icy Hot?
ben gayyyyyyyyy
Check out this thread
There’s an excellent formula listed - also a search of this forum will reveal several more recipes posted in the past.
good luck,
herb ox
hung gar dit da
Yes, that link has been posted waaaay too many times 
Seems like whenever a dit da jow discussion comes up, that link makes an appearance.
C’mon guys and dolls, let’s post something original - with metric measurements, pinyin and latin ingredients.
Okay, how about this one - not really a jow, but a good ‘hand warmer’ prior to iron palm training - boil a handful of Wolfberry bark - Di Gu Pi (Lycium Chinense Cortex) - in water for about 30 minutes. - Cool the water and pour enough into a bowl to soak your hands - the water should still be warm, though and the remainder can be reheated in the nuker if you like. Soak your hands for 10 minutes or so.
Di Gu Pi nourishes the blood and clears heat and promotes healing - the above technique is actually more suited for post-practice ‘hot palms’, but I have heard of its use as a pretraining soak.
Anybody heard of this or know more details?
peace out
herb ox
Just a word of note… Di Gu Pi does clear Heat, but specifically what is known as “Deficiency Heat”. Hence adding this herb would be especially beneficial to someone who has these symptoms, eg… dry skin is one possible and likely symptom.
di gu pi
NTC - thanks for the clarification. So, if it’s deficiency heat, would it likely be a deficiency of the Yin essence that would otherwise keep heat ‘in check’ - with the absence of that controlling factor, heat symptoms are presented… does that sound right? Off the top of my head, I seem to remember di gu pi benefiting the kidneys, liver and lungs - also being used to treat ‘lung heat’ - I suppose its action is to bolster ‘cool yin’ ?
peace
herb ox
u can add salt also!