Ancient Egyptian Martial Arts

Someone was asking about the origin of martial arts, and we have a topic “Indian Martial Arts” which has links to some videos of what looks like a proto-martial art from India (and as we know, the Indian martial arts were possibly brought to the Shaolin Temple by Bodhidarma).

So here are some links for Egyptian martial arts:

Some articles:

http://www.hiddendragon.com/articles/Egyptian.html
http://www.hiddendragon.com/articles/Egypt2.html

A tomb painting of ‘boxing’:

http://www.sis.gov.eg/egyptinf/history/html/sports07.htm

More info on sports in ancient Egypt, including locations of paintings, etc.

http://www.ioa.leeds.ac.uk/1980s/84085.htm

that’s cool

All i wanted was some RICE CAKES! Now? WE MUST BATTLE.

Thanks for the links, let me take the opportunity to state categorically that MARTIAL ARTS DO NOT HAVE A SINGLE ORIGIN except the tendancy of homonids to fight.

http://www.clearsilat.com

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Thanks for the links Syre!

Beni Hassan Tomb, Egypt, 2000 BC

yeah it’s cool. Like a wrestling manual.

Yeah I don’t see any striking either.

ya thats cool. starts with clinching up, you see some ground and pounding, taking the back, leg sweeps, hip tosses…etc.

Egyptian Weapons

makes you wonder…the egyptians definately had an asortment of weapons.

“The infantry of the New Kingdom carried spears, battle axes, sickleswords and daggers. The sicklesword (MdC transliteration: xpS - khepesh or khopesh) came to Egypt from Syria, where Thutmose III used it first. There are many depictions of the gods handing the pharaoh this weapon of victory [2]. It quickly became part of the infantryman’s basic equipment.”

so with your infantry trained and armed with a small assortment of arms, it would be pretty logical to include standard grappling into the training.

wouldnt have much need for striking.

I’m of the opinion that what we’re seeing here is a sport.

Didn’t see the Ground’N’Pound. That was sweet. :cool:

hmm, ya you are probably right…so far hasnt every culture had some form or another of grappling sport?

i cant think of one that has not…maybe eskimos? lol

Greetings,

What is so interesting about the wrestling mural is that it looks sequential, like a two man matching form, with techniques and counters.

mickey

[QUOTE=mickey;1009968]Greetings,

What is so interesting about the wrestling mural is that it looks sequential, like a two man matching form, with techniques and counters.

mickey[/QUOTE]

rofl dsfdfgdfg

do primates do chinna and head locks or do they just bite and rip out eyeballs and limbs when they are ****ed…any video of the king gorrilla arresting a lesser fellow?.

[QUOTE=diego;1010003]do primates do chinna and head locks or do they just bite and rip out eyeballs and limbs when they are ****ed…any video of the king gorrilla arresting a lesser fellow?.[/QUOTE]

primates? what do apes have to do with egyptian martial arts?

Greetings,

Andy Miles:

A lot of the people in the Egyptian countryside are TRUE EGYPTIAN descendants. They have been displaced in their own homeland.

mickey

[QUOTE=mickey;1010036]Greetings,

Andy Miles:

A lot of the people in the Egyptian countryside are TRUE EGYPTIAN descendants. They have been displaced in their own homeland.

mickey[/QUOTE]

That whole region has been flipped more times than a short stack at denny’s

It is very difficult to ascertain if the people that live there now are descendants of the people who lived there over the millenia. In some cases yes, in others, no way.

The pyramids were incredibly ancient when Ramses II was Pharaoh and in the time of Akhenaten they were also ancient. By the time of the last Pharaoh (Cleopatra who wasn’t even an egyptian) the old dynasties were almost forgotten.

[QUOTE=David Jamieson;1010040]
It is very difficult to ascertain if the people that live there now are descendants of the people who lived there over the millenia. In some cases yes, in others, no way.

The pyramids were incredibly ancient when Ramses II was Pharaoh and in the time of Akhenaten they were also ancient. By the time of the last Pharaoh (Cleopatra who wasn’t even an egyptian) the old dynasties were almost forgotten.[/QUOTE]

Actually it is true. The people of the countryside are closer to the roots of pre-Islamic Egypt. The more urban the city location, the more one see the varied post Islamic phenotypes and sociocultural mores. The more recent groups are Albanian and Turkish (1750’s-1900) in the Egyptian landscape. In Pharoanic times, Greeks and Romans were representative of the foreign influences of the specific era!

[QUOTE=mawali;1010284]Pharoanic times, Greeks and Romans were representative of the foreign influences of the specific era![/QUOTE]

Pharaonic times?

They lasted a couple of thousand years!

Don’t forget the Assyrians, Sumerians, Hittites, Hebrews, Phoneticians, Minoans, Space Aliens (such as the Nordics, Reptilians and Annunaki)…etc!

re

Bloodlines may disappear but the language and religion of AE live on in the Copts. Christianity in Egypt took hold because all that was required was changing the names of the gods and some slight modifications of the story. But even the arab muslims cling to some of the traditions. Here is some info on combat sports in Egypt. Looks like there was an extensive body of knowledge around wrestling. The stick-fighting art is still practiced today though it is disguised as a dance most of the time.

http://www.la84foundation.org/SportsLibrary/JSH/JSH1988/JSH1502/jsh1502b.pdf

http://www.la84foundation.org/OlympicInformationCenter/OlympicReview/1938/ORUE1/ORUE1c.pdf

Kostas Dervenis (http://www.pammachon.gr/) does an analysis in his book, The Martial Arts of Ancient Greece.

http://store.innertraditions.com/Product.jmdx;jsessionid=7A307679D0587CE1CE5D79CCC19FBBF6?action=displayDetail&id=2255&searchString=978-1-59477-192-7&selectedTextTypeKeynames=23&displayZoom=1