New agey? I hate that term new age, it’s like these neo pagans, man we were doing this when it was called old age! LOL The person who taught me the washing of the spine,also taught me the eight peices of brocade, amoung other things. When I showed him Lau Ga, he laughed. He said “Lau -Ga hides everything” From the sweeps, to the throws, they make it look pretty to outsiders. In this way, you can demonstrate your form but hide your gung-fu!" I suppose so. Hey, not fer nuthin, but I did have the opportunity to study directly under Mantak Chia for a short time, before he moved. (also before everything just got expensive) I have heard mixed things about him, but nonetheless, he did share. I wasn’t into alot of the things he did-I don’t ever think I would want a colonic! ack! He did assimilate alot of info, though. The pumping stuff was pretty much the same, but the packing was also the same thing I learned when I learned sam jien kuen, sam bo gin,and Gung-Ji Fuk Fu Kuen. Not as much emphasis on visualization of the internal organs and pathways like Chia-which is ok by me, I like to undercomplicate things.
The silk reeling ,spiraling isn’t exagerrated movement, or big, but it’s there. again, at least in my set it is. Who knows? Like I said, everyone seems to play this set diffeently-even amoung people of the same lineage.
I can understand what you are saying, but i’m still not seeing how its correct from a Lau Gar perspective. The main thing with the beginning section of Lau Gar is that it adheres to the principle of “fun ji yu muk dik”, so its hard for me to see how the Du Xue comes into play.
As for the 8 brocades, well thats a different flavor and totally diffferent faht. That beginning movement focuses more on the San Jiao and clearing up a lot in the Ren Xue. It has very little to do with the Du Xue at that particular point in time.
As for Sam Jien (three battles?), isn’t that a totally different system? If thats five ancestors, once again the ging is totally different. Sam Bo Gin is also another type of ging, uses the Fu Bui (tigers back) more.
So all in all, these are all different forms from different systems. I dont see how they could really bring clarity to Lau Gar and its faht ging, and especially how its used within the Hung system.
Ease on:D
TenTigers,
I dont study HungGar But the Tiger Techs in my style from what i have seen, is very similar, i have Bucksam Kongs TigerCrane book, and DocFaiWongs Shaolin 5Animal Book, wich has tiger technique in forms of horsestance uppercuts, so it uses the shoulder strentgh of the tigerstyle, How many Historical Tiger Drills do you Know of in HungGa?
- Moi Fa Sup Fu Kuen (although this was originally designed as a bridge between gung-ji fook fu and fu hok seung ying kuen, we teach it as a beginner set due to it’s short sequence, and solid foundation.) consists of All tiger techs, attacking, trapping, counter trapping,emergancy bridging techniques, converging energy, whole body power, foa/chum
sam bo jin,sam jien kuen, etc, I was referring to packing/percentage breathing, not faht, or ging-although breathing and release plays a key role in faht ging. As far as faht, were you saying, divide intercept,yue muk point? it’s hard to translate phonetic chinese, and I don’t have the set up for chinese ideograms
Hi diego, I’m not sure I understand your question, could you rephrase it?
HEY ! There’s hundreds of views on this post, how come nobody posted their curriculums? Gai si !
prolly beginners
what i was getting at, im under the assumption most likely from the original tiger style, wich hungga built off; i assume thier is a select number of key tiger techniques.
For instance if you drop back in a right catstance, evading a leftheadpunch, and you use a right tansao/palmup-hand"fiar lady looks in mirror’from shaolin?&taiji!"
then you flow with your right into a right tiger claw to the face.
Wing chun has this but they use a palm and thier stances, i assume styles like hg,clf,bm, etc… it seems most southern styles that share the 5elder legends in thier history, as the styles mentioned do, hold very similar relation within the structuring of thier set’s, like the power is differant but since thier from shaolin? they hold the same combat principles just differant frames of physique!
, also i would assume since thier of the same era"out with the ching, in with the ming-legend of kf", and of the south, this makes me very curious, as i would like to understand the Original idea’s behind the Tiger Style, & it’s mode of Fighting!.
So, I assume thier is a limited # of motion wong fei hung or his teacher or father? used in the creation of HungGar!, so my understanding is the tiger/crane set holds much of what needs to be known for tigerstyle in combat?, I’m Wondering, how many main combinations are thier in general within the history of southern shaolin tiger style?!, and especially how many in hunggar, as HG seems to be one of the more open and accessible styles, such as WingChun.
If it’s to much to list all the tiger motions in your lineage, would you be kind, to describe the key tiger techniques to me, the techs in hungga in combat most effective for using tiger:)
shouldnt be to much typing, as i was going to ask, all that then how the saying tiger builds bonestrentgh, dragon innerspirit, snake suppleness etc, i was going to asl in shaolin 5animals and the family styles based upon these animals, i was going to ask, how does tiger builds bonestrentgh, how does that appear in combat whats the inner cogs for those techniques, then how does the crane teaches swift&evasion, how does that benefit and incorporate with the Tiger, and the rest of the flock?!..thats a book, right there…So i left it out, think ima ask that one at hungga.net
Peace:cool: