Zhang Zhuang

this is like someone doing bicep curls and complain weight training doesnt improve your punching power.

do standing post with a 40 pound weight vest.

When people said that, “standing are considered the most reliable way of generating power using the body”, I truly don’t know what that person was talking about. :frowning:

There are so many valuable training in TCMA. Standing just not the most effective way to spend your training time in it.

[QUOTE=YouKnowWho;1113530]When people said that, “standing are considered the most reliable way of generating power using the body”, I truly don’t know what that person was talking about. :([/QUOTE]

Neither do they!

[QUOTE=YouKnowWho;1113530]
There are so many valuable training in TCMA. Standing just not the most effective way to spend your training time in it.[/QUOTE]
standing post is great. its trains tolerance for pain and increase leg endurance.

If you can spend your training time to hit a heavy bag then why do you want to stand there like an idiot? IMO, the standing is worse than the solo form training. At least when you train solo form, you are hitting the thin air. When you stand, you are not even hit anything.

because after hitting a heavy bag for one hour your hands are tired, and you can train other things.

I mostly use public transit. sometimes my bus wait is for 10-20 minutes. sometimes i do standing at that time, instead of nothing at all or being tired and waiting. or sometimes i even do standing at work, when i have no work to do. it is really the only kind of training i can do at certain times is just standing. if it was acceptable to fight people or use a heavy bag at work or at the bus stop, i would. haha

i think this is a good time for standing, when you have nothing else you can do.

also if you have to stand out in the winter, simple standing will keep your whole body warm easily.

put a 100 pound barbell on your back and sink down into a fighting stance. if you find it useless after that then your opinion has merit.

i know you got weights john wang. why dont you try it right now if you are not busy? in 20 minutes tell me what you think.

I do it as part of my morning “Tao Yoga” routine: 5 minutes standing, then a few exercises from Dao Yin and Eight Pieces Brocade, followed by Sun salutation and seated stretches, ending with about 10 min. lying meditation.
I also do it before doing my Tai Chi set. I find it’s a great way to set myself up mentally and physically for such practices.
For fighting? no.

There are some stands that are much harder to train and you will get great benefit out of it.

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[QUOTE=YouKnowWho;1113536]If you can spend your training time to hit a heavy bag then why do you want to stand there like an idiot? .[/QUOTE]
I don’t. It so happens that when I stand, I stand quite intelligently.

[QUOTE=YouKnowWho;1113549]There are some stands that are much harder to train and you will get great benefit out of it.

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http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/802/13tbzz.jpg/[/QUOTE]ok, i am free today and i will try doing what you showed in your photo right now. you should also try what i said and stand post with a barbell on your back. tell me what you think in 20 minutes.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rtUKTd2WKsc

I just don’t see to “stand on 2 feet in high stance” can give you much combat benefit at all.

I would rather to stand like this.

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Zhan Zhuang is great because it only takes a few minutes and it doesn’t trigger a burdensome recovery need; you can practice it everyday. Trains pain tolerance, breath control, leg/hip strength, flexibility and if held deep enough while stressing absolutely perfect posture it also works the core extensively.

[QUOTE=bawang;1113551]ok, i am free today and i will try doing what you showed in your photo right now. you should also try what i said and stand post with a barbell on your back. tell me what you think in 20 minutes.[/QUOTE]

Those 2 stances can help you to “enhance” your “shin bit”, “outer hook”. To stand post with a barbell on my back is not going to help me to “enhance” any of my combat skills.

If I care for “health” only, I’ll do my 4 miles running.

hi, i just tried the postures you showed, i find they are good for balance.

now you should try standing post: go in low horse stance with a barbell on your back.

i tried what you said, now you should try what i said, otherwise you are just taling out of your ass.

Please explain how it trains pain tolerance when it is painless?

when i do my high standing i do it two ways. one rocked all the way back onto my heals to the point of balance and maintain that the whole time. expand, contract, up, down, left and right. activating the muscles constantly. the other i stand on the balls of my feet with the same movement emphasis while standing. the third is combat stance.

for instance when i do step forward straight or cross punch, classic western boxer style. the muscles in the legs used are the same muscles i actively work while standing in my legs. in what i was taught, the key is not to be static. ever. never be completely still. you must be doing cardiovascular exersize the whole time while you stand. if you jsut stand there still, you are doing it wrong. by the way i was taught to stand. so i think there can be benefit, even if ever so slight. but while i stand at work or for the bus. at least i can get some benefits.

[QUOTE=David Jamieson;1113561]Please explain how it trains pain tolerance when it is painless?[/QUOTE]

haha. i will dare you to come to gregory fong for 1 free class and ask him that. i think there are many different ways of ‘standing’

stance training is a fundamental kung fu skill. traditional kung fu. if you guys dont want to do it you have a problem.

instead of talking out of your asses, put a barbell on your back, or wear a weight vest, and do stance training, then give your opinion.