Huh. Some kind of fat ga thing going on, there. I didn’t know anyone else used the WC name. No reason why not, though. She was a popular character in stories and, like Mu Lan, could have had different wushu styles named after her.
Fat Ga? ypu think so?
There is a set of moves found in CLF there and in my lineage as well.
Most definitely CLF. Even if it wasn’t obviously the CLF Ping Kuen (which it is), the fist seeds are all there.
This is hard for me to watch. It is like a mockery of legitimate CLF form . . .
now wing chun teachers are stealing our forms too?
What are they trying to do, play CLF slow and weak? This is like the shapes and movements of CLF, without the essence or soul.
A pathetic display if you ask me.
agree with ben
looks like this guy has learnt ping kuen from like a video or picture book
As we all know from the Taiping development,
CLF is one of the biggest Influence in 1850. Some even refer Chen Hueng as Jhee Sin.
There is no supprise to see Ping Kuen in Weng Chun Eternal Spring.
Most definitely CLF. Even if it wasn’t obviously the CLF Ping Kuen (which it is), the fist seeds are all there.
Yeah i totally agree with that. its strange to see it labeled as weng chun
now wing chun teachers are stealing our forms too?
i got the feeling of “trying to pull on over” on someone.
[QUOTE=hskwarrior;955704]Yeah i totally agree with that. its strange to see it labeled as weng chun
i got the feeling of “trying to pull on over” on someone.[/QUOTE]
Standing in the angle of studying martial art DNA and history.
Weng Chun is different type of art compare with Wing Chun, IMHO.
Want to keep this response narrow to just 1 point.
This form is only in the Chu Chung Man family of Weng Chun and the history of it is that its not weng chun proper. CCM liked the form when he saw it . Learned it and passed it on.
a xerox of a xerox…
[QUOTE=hunt1;955737]Want to keep this response narrow to just 1 point.
This form is only in the Chu Chung Man family of Weng Chun and the history of it is that its not weng chun proper. CCM liked the form when he saw it . Learned it and passed it on.[/QUOTE]
Just suck it up and learn the legitimate thing then from a CLF teacher. Or take Lama Pai, Hop Ga, or whatever he fancies. Doesn’t have to be CLF. But want a long arm style taught correctly, don’t learn it without a teacher.
IMHO
[QUOTE=hskwarrior;955662]Fat Ga? ypu think so?
There is a set of moves found in CLF there and in my lineage as well.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, I do mean Choy Lee Fat. I just sometimes use the term Fat/Fut/Faht Ga to denote any southern style of buddhist boxing method that isn’t clearly designated CLF or is CLF derived, as this seems to be.
jd
my vote, BAD choy lay fut :mad:
I don’t know what choy la fut looks like, but I know that I did see some WC moves there. However, they were not good WC at all. Well, not in my opinion. I think he has sort of mixed styles here. WC is a much more effecient form and does not have all that arm swing and round movements, and he kicks wrong. So no, that is not wing chun, or weng chun or whatever. I am guessing it is supposed to be the same thing.
As said before, Wing Chun is very different than Weng Chun. There is no “Weng Chun” derived from any of the major lineages of Wing Chun - YKS, Gulao, Yip Man, etc. Weng Chun is not one of the other names for Wing Chun/Ving Tsun/Wing Tsun/etc.
Weng Chun claims common ancestry from the southern shaolin temple, but we all know(or should know) that there’s never been any legitimate historical data to prove that.
Obviously it shares some things in common with CLF - That form has very little in common with Wing Chun.
[QUOTE=AdrianK;956002]
Obviously it shares some things in common with CLF - That form has very little in common with Wing Chun.[/QUOTE]
It doesn’t share things with CLF, it IS CLF. It is the CLF Ping Kuen, done very badly.
yeah, that’s ping kuen…and its kinda shameless to take a form then not give it its credit then label it as another system.
[QUOTE=hskwarrior;956139]yeah, that’s ping kuen…and its kinda shameless to take a form then not give it its credit then label it as another system.[/QUOTE]
Sure okay, but what does it matter anyway? Its doubtful this guy stole it himself. It was more than likely stolen almost a hundred years ago, if not more.
my only issue was that a CLF form or WC?
i think on one hand its great CLF is so great people have to take from it.
adrian, do you study weng chun?
are the chinese characters for Weng Chun and Wing Chun the same?