Why hasn't anyone shown off their internal powers?

[QUOTE=sanjuro_ronin;925191]You actually hit the nail on the head with the problem in using the term “internal”, all the crap that is associated with it.
Ki master getting their butts handed to them by MMA guy.
Yellow bamboo fools.
Over inflated descriptions of parlour tricks.
People with a vested interest in playing the “mystic card”.
etc, etc.[/QUOTE]

AS for all the mystical stuff of internal styles. If those tricks were really real. I don’t think those with special abilities would openly display them for the public or share them with others. I think if someone possess the ability of True Internal strength that could knock down a standing brick from five feet away or with stand a sharp sword being driven into their chest. That indiviual would hide those abilities and not share them with others.

[QUOTE=sanjuro_ronin;925251]Isokinetics, slef imposed isokinetics.
Sanchin, Iron Wire, that kind of stuff.[/QUOTE]

Whats the purpose of Iron Wire and Sanchin in your opinion?

[QUOTE=Dale Dugas;925183]By using your structure to lift it rather than only your tendons and muscles.

Use of whole body power and utilization is internal in my opinion.[/QUOTE]
The term internal is abstract and subject to semantics. People can do amazing physical feats with no knowledge of the term “Chi” or internal power.

[QUOTE=Dale Dugas;925183]Plus my door is always open.
Anyone can come hit me anytime, and see that I can accept what you throw at me.[/QUOTE]
Just my opinion but I’d stay away from that sort of “challenge”. You never know who’s out there and what there capabilities are. :wink:

[QUOTE=Dale Dugas;925183]I also would love to be hit both hardwork and boulderdawg as they would finally see what true kung fu training can do for someone.[/QUOTE] True Kung Fu training??? No one has sole license to true kung fu so I’m not even going to touch that one.

AS for all the mystical stuff of internal styles. If those tricks were really real. I don’t think those with special abilities would openly display them for the public or share them with others. I think if someone possess the ability of True Internal strength that could knock down a standing brick from five feet away or with stand a sharp sword being driven into their chest. That indiviual would hide those abilities and not share them with others.

There were some reknown masters of Qigong that showed their skills publiclly, the famous IP master Master Ku Yu Cheong is one.

Whats the purpose of Iron Wire and Sanchin in your opinion?

Power.
:wink:

[QUOTE=Yoshiyahu;925255]ASI think if someone possess the ability of True Internal strength that could knock down a standing brick from five feet away or with stand a sharp sword being driven into their chest. That indiviual would hide those abilities and not share them with others.

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Speaking for myself: if I could do either of those things I’d be VERY public about it and be laughing all the way to the bank with the $1,000,000 that James Randi has offered to people who can prove such abilities.

[QUOTE=SimonM;925281]Speaking for myself: if I could do either of those things I’d be VERY public about it and be laughing all the way to the bank with the $1,000,000 that James Randi has offered to people who can prove such abilities.[/QUOTE]

Besides that, public displays were very popular in ancient china, no?
Display skills of that nature doesn’t display HOW they got those skills nor any secret “fighting technique”, which, understandably, would be kept guarded.

Precisely.

But it’s easy enough for people to get the gullible to drink the kool aid by telling them that you have these great powers but they are secret and not to be publicly demonstrated.

[QUOTE=sanjuro_ronin;925282]Besides that, public displays were very popular in ancient china, no?

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I LOL at people who claim “showing off” isn’t something a “master” would do :rolleyes:

[QUOTE=Phil Redmond;925262]The term internal is abstract and subject to semantics. People can do amazing physical feats with no knowledge of the term “Chi” or internal power.

Just my opinion but I’d stay away from that sort of “challenge”. You never know who’s out there and what there capabilities are. :wink:

True Kung Fu training??? No one has sole license to true kung fu so I’m not even going to touch that one.[/QUOTE]

Redmond Shifu,

I fly my peac o c k feathers on my sun toi for all to see. I accept any and all, mostly people are afraid to test their hand these days.

The true kung fu remark was aimed at two of the loudest mouthboxers here on the KFM forum who do nothing but mouth box rather than show they are real people with real skills.

I commend you for being a stand up teacher who is not afraid to say who they are and what they do.

too bad there are so many others who whimper, whine and hide.

[QUOTE=lkfmdc;925302]I LOL at people who claim “showing off” isn’t something a “master” would do :rolleyes:[/QUOTE]

I recall your GM Chan doing Iron head breaks, wire breaking and other Hard Qigong demos.

[QUOTE=lkfmdc;925302]I LOL at people who claim “showing off” isn’t something a “master” would do :rolleyes:[/QUOTE]

Well because every master of gongfu was a humble Buddhist monk whose prowess as a fighter was only superceeded by his humility and his piety.

No master of gongfu was a cut throat, a mercenary, or a self-involved physical fitness nut with a superiority complex…

Except for the occasional villain whose only purpose was to provide challenges for the true (pious, humble) gongfu masters to overcome.

Or was Jin Yong lying to me about martial history all this time?

Oh wait…

His heroes are a bunch of womanizing drunks half the time. :wink:

Ah, womanizing drunks…:smiley:
If there was one MA character trait to aspire to, that would be it !

[QUOTE=sanjuro_ronin;925305]I recall your GM Chan doing Iron head breaks, wire breaking and other Hard Qigong demos.[/QUOTE]

did TONS of them, did them all the time and everywhere…

[QUOTE=lkfmdc;925313]did TONS of them, did them all the time and everywhere…[/QUOTE]

You tube is full of them, of old master doing demos, there is that clip from Mind, Body and kick ass moves of the Chow Gar GM doing iron crotch for example and that was on TV, DVD AND youtube !

[QUOTE=sanjuro_ronin;925314]You tube is full of them, of old master doing demos, there is that clip from Mind, Body and kick ass moves of the Chow Gar GM doing iron crotch for example and that was on TV, DVD AND youtube ![/QUOTE]

and they loved to “one up” the first guy… CTS got ****ed when another old coot from Guangdong showed up at Tat Mau’s tournament to do chi kung stuff, so off to home depot for more bricks and crap

[QUOTE=lkfmdc;925318]and they loved to “one up” the first guy… CTS got ****ed when another old coot from Guangdong showed up at Tat Mau’s tournament to do chi kung stuff, so off to home depot for more bricks and crap[/QUOTE]

It was very common it seems, and always has been.

Me Too

I agree with Hardwork on this subject.

Does that mean there is open invitation for me to hit you too. Where can I hit you?

With gloves or with out gloves?

Will you allow me to do a form and some chi kung infront of you before I hit you with my full body power?

[QUOTE=Dale Dugas;925183]By using your structure to lift it rather than only your tendons and muscles.

Use of whole body power and utilization is internal in my opinion.

Plus my door is always open.

Anyone can come hit me anytime, and see that I can accept what you throw at me.

I also would love to be hit both hardwork and boulderdawg as they would finally see what true kung fu training can do for someone.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Yoshiyahu;925325]I agree with Hardwork on this subject.

Does that mean there is open invitation for me to hit you too. Where can I hit you?

With gloves or with out gloves?

Will you allow me to do a form and some chi kung infront of you before I hit you with my full body power?[/QUOTE]

Nice knowing you.
Let me know where I can send the flowers.
LOL.

[QUOTE=sanjuro_ronin;925330]Nice knowing you.
Let me know where I can send the flowers.
LOL.[/QUOTE]

Why nice knowing me? please explain?

he said nothing about hitting back!!!

[QUOTE=Yoshiyahu;925331]Why nice knowing me? please explain?

he said nothing about hitting back!!![/QUOTE]

The man wears a kilt.
Nuff said.

[QUOTE=Yoshiyahu;925325]I agree with Hardwork on this subject.

Does that mean there is open invitation for me to hit you too. Where can I hit you?

With gloves or with out gloves?

Will you allow me to do a form and some chi kung infront of you before I hit you with my full body power?[/QUOTE]

Let’s leave Dale alone with appreciation.

Dale shared what he practiced honestly.

Show yourself in Youtube if you like to shared your power and see what people said. May be you are excellent. who knows?